What the fuck is it with the Ring and Nonito Donaire?

[killersheep]

I think what Daxx is getting at is that some guys get a pass for fighting smaller men, while Donaire doesn't. He's trying to say both situations were wrong but Donaire gets shit for it. In fact with De La Hoya, Manny got shit for jumping up 2 weight divisions to fight him not the other way around.

Yes Manny is a p4p great, but did what De La Hoya do was right? Making a guy who just fought once over 130 pounds at that time to fight him? In fact quite a few people on this board expected and wanted Manny to jump up 3 weight classes so that De La Hoya would get a "fair" fight.

Thank you...Like I said all along....I don't say it is OK for Donaire to do it...Nor do I think based on his opp he deserves his rating but you can't persecute one guy and not the other....I was not speaking on a Ratings factor...Just in general...Floyd and Oscar did the same thing but just on a higher level...But I never seen the same criticism being dished out to those guys...

Hence the hater comment....

Other then that I agree with everything Both KS and Killer made on this just can't give some guys a pass but others the OK regardless of level of skill...And the size difference between Donaire and Vargas is exaggerated....They are pretty close in size...hell of a lot closer then DLH/PAC..

Plus like I said Vargas has had 10 fights at 110lbs or above...I think he has even fought as high as 113....so the making 114lbs to fight Donaire was not really a huge step in weight for him...Vargas struggles to make 105

Why were you arguing with me then, clearly everything I posted was in relation to a ratings standpoint. The entire topic of this thread is a ratings standpoint. Furthermore, if you haven't heard anyone complaining about Floyd fighting smallers fighters on this board, you haven't been paying attention. ODLH doesn't get shit for fighting Pac, because Pac had abilities, which I've mentioned before which gave him a reasonable chance at victory.

[DaxxKahn]

I think what Daxx is getting at is that some guys get a pass for fighting smaller men, while Donaire doesn't. He's trying to say both situations were wrong but Donaire gets shit for it. In fact with De La Hoya, Manny got shit for jumping up 2 weight divisions to fight him not the other way around.

Yes Manny is a p4p great, but did what De La Hoya do was right? Making a guy who just fought once over 130 pounds at that time to fight him? In fact quite a few people on this board expected and wanted Manny to jump up 3 weight classes so that De La Hoya would get a "fair" fight.

Thank you...Like I said all along....I don't say it is OK for Donaire to do it...Nor do I think based on his opp he deserves his rating but you can't persecute one guy and not the other....I was not speaking on a Ratings factor...Just in general...Floyd and Oscar did the same thing but just on a higher level...But I never seen the same criticism being dished out to those guys...

Hence the hater comment....

Other then that I agree with everything Both KS and Killer made on this just can't give some guys a pass but others the OK regardless of level of skill...And the size difference between Donaire and Vargas is exaggerated....They are pretty close in size...hell of a lot closer then DLH/PAC..

Plus like I said Vargas has had 10 fights at 110lbs or above...I think he has even fought as high as 113....so the making 114lbs to fight Donaire was not really a huge step in weight for him...Vargas struggles to make 105

Why were you arguing with me then, clearly everything I posted was in relation to a ratings standpoint. The entire topic of this thread is a ratings standpoint. Furthermore, if you haven't heard anyone complaining about Floyd fighting smallers fighters on this board, you haven't been paying attention. ODLH doesn't get shit for fighting Pac, because Pac had abilities, which I've mentioned before which gave him a reasonable chance at victory.

Well mate somewhere I was lost then because when you mentioned you would never forgive him for fighting Vargas it seemed because he was much smaller...If this is just because of ratings then this was a one reply topic....

So my apologies on that....

[killersheep]

Thank you...Like I said all along....I don't say it is OK for Donaire to do it...Nor do I think based on his opp he deserves his rating but you can't persecute one guy and not the other....I was not speaking on a Ratings factor...Just in general...Floyd and Oscar did the same thing but just on a higher level...But I never seen the same criticism being dished out to those guys...

Hence the hater comment....

Other then that I agree with everything Both KS and Killer made on this just can't give some guys a pass but others the OK regardless of level of skill...And the size difference between Donaire and Vargas is exaggerated....They are pretty close in size...hell of a lot closer then DLH/PAC..

Plus like I said Vargas has had 10 fights at 110lbs or above...I think he has even fought as high as 113....so the making 114lbs to fight Donaire was not really a huge step in weight for him...Vargas struggles to make 105

Why were you arguing with me then, clearly everything I posted was in relation to a ratings standpoint. The entire topic of this thread is a ratings standpoint. Furthermore, if you haven't heard anyone complaining about Floyd fighting smallers fighters on this board, you haven't been paying attention. ODLH doesn't get shit for fighting Pac, because Pac had abilities, which I've mentioned before which gave him a reasonable chance at victory.

Well mate somewhere I was lost then because when you mentioned you would never forgive him for fighting Vargas it seemed because he was much smaller...If this is just because of ratings then this was a one reply topic....

So my apologies on that....

No need to apologize, just looks like we were talking about two different things, well you can apologize for the hater comment if you want

[DaxxKahn]

:I am Sorry for calling Killersheep a Hater
I put my :

[killersheep]

:I am Sorry for calling Killersheep a Hater
I put my :

Hmm looks like I need to spread some rep before I get ya again.

[toe2toe]

:I am Sorry for calling Killersheep a Hater
I put my :

Hmm looks like I need to spread some rep before I get ya again.

can you rep me for the info i contributed on this thread?

[killersheep]

:I am Sorry for calling Killersheep a Hater
I put my :

Hmm looks like I need to spread some rep before I get ya again.

can you rep me for the info i contributed on this thread?

Sure, why not.