After Wlad ko's Haye in the 12th, where will he stand on the All Time Greats list?

[paddy448]

The wlad haye fight is by no means a foregone conclusion. Also comparing wlad with Ali. Come on dave hughey what the fukk man

[Dark Lord Al]

This post is hypothetical bullshit , its not happened so how can we even have an opinion on it.

[HattonTheHammer]

Vitali is an all time great

Wlad has been beaten by pancakes who the likes of ali, louis etc would beat in there sleep.

If wlad beats haye it`ll be a sad day for heavyweight boxing, it`ll just mean we`ll have to wait for both brothers to retire before we can actually get some parity back into the division

[Dark Lord Al]

Vitali is an all time great

Wlad has been beaten by pancakes who the likes of ali, louis etc would beat in there sleep.

If wlad beats haye it`ll be a sad day for heavyweight boxing, it`ll just mean we`ll have to wait for both brothers to retire before we can actually get some parity back into the division

Some big words from you , not pissed yet ?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

This post is hypothetical bullshit , its not happened so how can we even have an opinion on it.

I have an oppinion on everything... Even things that haven't happened yet... and yes, you should have fish for dinner.

You're welcome.

[Dark Lord Al]

This post is hypothetical bullshit , its not happened so how can we even have an opinion on it.

I have an oppinion on everything... Even things that haven't happened yet... and yes, you should have fish for dinner.

You're welcome.

Mike you are all knowledgeable and a credit to this forum , nay you are a credit to mankind.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

This post is hypothetical bullshit , its not happened so how can we even have an opinion on it.

I have an oppinion on everything... Even things that haven't happened yet... and yes, you should have fish for dinner.

You're welcome.

Mike you are all knowledgeable and a credit to this forum , nay you are a credit to mankind.

Why thank you, sir... Have you paid homage to "War" today on this 15th day of April, 25 years to the day?

[Dark Lord Al]

I have an oppinion on everything... Even things that haven't happened yet... and yes, you should have fish for dinner.

You're welcome.

Mike you are all knowledgeable and a credit to this forum , nay you are a credit to mankind.

Why thank you, sir... Have you paid homage to "War" today on this 15th day of April, 25 years to the day?

Indeed I have great memories

[ryanman]

The opening post is almost Fantana-esqe

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The opening post is almost Fantana-esqe

I thought the same goddamn thing. But I figured I'd humor it.

[Dave Hughey]

The wlad haye fight is by no means a foregone conclusion. Also comparing wlad with Ali. Come on dave hughey what the fukk man

I would love to see Wlad or Vitali fight Ali, toe to toe in their prime. Wouldn't you?

I personally think every fight fan on earth would want to see that match, and probably every little old lady, high school kid and college professor, too.

And let me ask you this. Would you bet the farm on either fighter?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The wlad haye fight is by no means a foregone conclusion. Also comparing wlad with Ali. Come on dave hughey what the fukk man

I would love to see Wlad or Vitali fight Ali, toe to toe in their prime. Wouldn't you?

I personally think every fight fan on earth would want to see that match, and probably every little old lady, high school kid and college professor, too.

And let me ask you this. Would you bet the farm on either fighter?

Ali crushes both.

[Dave Hughey]

The wlad haye fight is by no means a foregone conclusion. Also comparing wlad with Ali. Come on dave hughey what the fukk man

I would love to see Wlad or Vitali fight Ali, toe to toe in their prime. Wouldn't you?

I personally think every fight fan on earth would want to see that match, and probably every little old lady, high school kid and college professor, too.

And let me ask you this. Would you bet the farm on either fighter?

Ali crushes both.

Mr. Pride, I'd like to hear your answers to the 2 questions I asked Paddy 448. In fact, I'd like to hear everyone's answers.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I would love to see Wlad or Vitali fight Ali, toe to toe in their prime. Wouldn't you?

I personally think every fight fan on earth would want to see that match, and probably every little old lady, high school kid and college professor, too.

And let me ask you this. Would you bet the farm on either fighter?

Ali crushes both.

Mr. Pride, I'd like to hear your answers to the 2 questions I asked.

I actually answered your question earlier in the thread. I think Wlad is the most dominat HW in the division today and will absolutly go down as the best HW of the era as for ATG status, he'll probably make a good argument for it. Vitali, probably not, though at his peak he was damn good. Wlad has held the strap longer, been more dominant at the top and is in no way showing signs of slowing down. I think it is possible. I don't put alot of stock in the weak competition argument due to both Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano both having generally weak competition in their respective reigns. Joe louis's fights were once refered to as the "bum of the month club" yet both men are held in high regard on the ATG list and rightfully so. It's not a fighters fault that the competition is fairly weak. It's just disheartening to know that we'll never really know what they're capable of. Althought Wlad and Vitali are strong and large a guy like Ali with a chin, superior handspeed and far better legs would be a stylistic nightmare for either one regardless of their respective skills. Neither would have much of a shot.

Does that answer your questions?

[Dave Hughey]

I am sorry, sir. I didn't make myself very clear. My apology. I meant the 2 questions I asked of Paddy 448, as follows:

1. I would love to see Wlad or Vitali fight Ali, toe to toe in their prime. Wouldn't you?


2. Would you bet the farm on either fighter?


Actually, I would like to hear other posters answer those questions, as well.