After Wlad ko's Haye in the 12th, where will he stand on the All Time Greats list?

[El Kabong]

The Klitschko brothers are good and I recognize they have skill, but I must admit, it has always pained me to see them beat up on smaller fighters then them (which is like 98% of their opponents).

I have always wanted to see them fight someone who would be about the same size and see how they fair. (Lewis was one of those rare occasions)
That's why, even though it wouldnt have been that great, I would have liked to see Valuev in there with a Klitschko...
Ah well.

Wlad has beaten at LEAST 2 guys bigger than himself, that's probably about the same as Lennox Lewis.

And I can't say this enough WLADIMIR is better than Vitali

[Lefty]

Like Wladimir will even step into a ring with David Haye.

[amat]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

[Lefty]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

Signatures dont mean shiit. Until I see Haye in one corner and Mr Bitchsko in the other, only then will I be satisfied he'll fight him.

[amat]

So you actually believe that Haye scares Wlad to the point he won't step in the ring with him? This isn't a schoolyard fight lefty these are champion boxers, they're not scared to step in the ring.

[Lefty]

So you actually believe that Haye scares Wlad to the point he won't step in the ring with him? This isn't a schoolyard fight lefty these are champion boxers, they're not scared to step in the ring.

I hope he aint. But he's been running his mouth lately. All he has to do is man up and offer 50-50. Then the fights his simple.

[DaxxKahn]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

I had a name or sig bet w lefty for 1 yr on that fight...After Haye bitched out the name Leftylee seemed top fade away with Hayes bravado...

Coincidence or Phenomenon

[generalbulldog]

For some reason I believe if this fight happens it could be another Cooney-Holmes. You know where an established reigning HW champion gives a beat down to what a lot of people at that time considered to be a premier contender that was really overhyped, minus the racial overtones of course.

[Boxer4life]

unfortunatley for them, their competition sucks, i would love to see them against a prime mike or prime lewis

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

unfortunatley for them, their competition sucks, i would love to see them against a prime mike or prime lewis

But what people tend to forget is time erases that... The same can be said for Joe Louis's "bum of the month club" and Rocky Marciano's competition... Yet there they are, all time greats... and rightfully so. You can't blame a fighter for competition levels.

Now if Tye Fields became heavyweight champion... Then I'd worry.

[match]

What's the difference between Wlad and Zab Judah?







.....Judah hasn't been knocked down nearly as many times. To answer the original question, Wlad will stand on the outside looking in

[Dave Hughey]

The Klitschko brothers are good and I recognize they have skill, but I must admit, it has always pained me to see them beat up on smaller fighters then them (which is like 98% of their opponents).

I have always wanted to see them fight someone who would be about the same size and see how they fair. (Lewis was one of those rare occasions)
That's why, even though it wouldnt have been that great, I would have liked to see Valuev in there with a Klitschko...
Ah well.

Wlad has beaten at LEAST 2 guys bigger than himself, that's probably about the same as Lennox Lewis.

And I can't say this enough WLADIMIR is better than Vitali

I wish we could see Klitschko vs. Klitschko in their primes, too.

But I'd like to add, and I can't say this enough, either, LOL. I intended this thread to be about where the Klits would rank in the list of ATG's based on their ability to win against the other ATG's in their primes in a fair boxing contest. Not based on their size, not based on whether they bore you or not, not based on how good you think their competition is or was, not based on their hair colour.

Just based on who would beat whom in a fair boxing contest.

[ICB]

The Klitschko brothers are good and I recognize they have skill, but I must admit, it has always pained me to see them beat up on smaller fighters then them (which is like 98% of their opponents).

I have always wanted to see them fight someone who would be about the same size and see how they fair. (Lewis was one of those rare occasions)
That's why, even though it wouldnt have been that great, I would have liked to see Valuev in there with a Klitschko...
Ah well.

Wlad has beaten at LEAST 2 guys bigger than himself, that's probably about the same as Lennox Lewis.

And I can't say this enough WLADIMIR is better than Vitali

I wish we could see Klitschko vs. Klitschko in their primes, too.

But I'd like to add, and I can't say this enough, either, LOL. I intended this thread to be about where the Klits would rank in the list of ATG's based on their ability to win against the other ATG's in their primes in a fair boxing contest. Not based on their size, not based on whether they bore you or not, not based on how good you think their competition is or was, not based on their hair colour.

Just based on who would beat whom in a far boxing contest.

I already answered this in your other thread, but here's another list.

Lennox Lewis
Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes
Ike Ibeabuchi
Prime Tim Witherspoon
Prime Riddick Bowe
Mike Tyson
Prime Buster Douglas the one vs Mike Tyson
George Foreman
Evander Holyfield

Thats a quick list, but theres possibly a few more forgotten Heavyweights. Like Tony Tucker that would stand a good chance.