Lucian Bute

[CFH]

I'm somehow agreeing with both of you

I think in the divisional rankings, it's Ward 1 because he did in fact beat the man regarded to be the man. When you do that you're top dog imo, even though Bute has the better resume.

Why has Bute got a better resume though?

Bute's resume.

Top Tier Fighters - None
Second Tier - Berrio, Miranda, Andrade (1-1), Bika

Ward's resume

Top Tier Fighters - Kessler

Second Tier - Miranda

If this were the Olympics Ward has a gold and a silver versus Bute's 3 silver (don't give him anything for Andrade as he lost the first fight) and thus wins.

I really don't want to have this argument again, but he's legitimately beaten Andrade twice. You can argue that Wright did a horrible job throughout the fight, but by the letter of the IBF's law, regardless of Wrights actions, Bute won that fight and to say otherwise is just incorrect. And I was cheering for Andrade.

[amat]

If we're going to be counting Froch's victory over Dirrell as a proper win, which it wasn't, then Bute's win over Andrade much stand. Although I do agree that he was GONE, in another place and for all intensive purposes should have a 1 in the loss column.

[OumaFan]

He's somehow Canadian and Eastern European. Just goes from bad to worse, or worst to pretty bad.

As long as we can all agree Dirrell's the number one guy at 168 everything will be ok.