Why Carl Froch is the greatest super middleweight of this generation

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And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??

Andrade had Bute out on his feet and beaten but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

Dirrell outboxed & eventually outslugged Froch by a wide margin but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

But Jaz the point is the round was already over, when Lucian Bute went down. All he had to do was beat the count, and respond to the ref. Its the actions of the stupid ref, telling Librado Andrade to go in the neutral corner.

Which added to the controversy, which wasn't needed. Because if that hadn't of happened. Lucian Bute still would of won regardless, because the time in the round was already over. And no one would have been thinking that Lucian Bute deserved a loss, people make too much of it.

Yes the ref was bad but he didn't change the outcome of the fight.

[JazMerkin]

Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??

Andrade had Bute out on his feet and beaten but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

Dirrell outboxed & eventually outslugged Froch by a wide margin but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

But Jaz the point is the round was already over, when Lucian Bute went down. All he had to do was beat the count, and respond to the ref. Its the actions of the stupid ref, telling Librado Andrade to go in the neutral corner.

Which added to the controversy, which wasn't needed. Because if that hadn't of happened. Lucian Bute still would of won regardless, because the time in the round was already over. And no one would have been thinking that Lucian Bute deserved a loss, people make too much of it.

Yes the ref was bad but he didn't change the outcome of the fight.

Watch that final round and how long Wright kept the two of them separated when he was breaking them up. It should have been stopped when Bute was only kept up by the ropes. People focus on the final round, but Wright's incompetence throughout that fight was the single worst refereeing performance I've seen.

Anyway not that it matters, Carl Froch would beat them all on the same night whilst simultaneously shagging his bird.

[HattonTheHammer]

Andrade had Bute out on his feet and beaten but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

Dirrell outboxed & eventually outslugged Froch by a wide margin but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

But Jaz the point is the round was already over, when Lucian Bute went down. All he had to do was beat the count, and respond to the ref. Its the actions of the stupid ref, telling Librado Andrade to go in the neutral corner.

Which added to the controversy, which wasn't needed. Because if that hadn't of happened. Lucian Bute still would of won regardless, because the time in the round was already over. And no one would have been thinking that Lucian Bute deserved a loss, people make too much of it.

Yes the ref was bad but he didn't change the outcome of the fight.

Watch that final round and how long Wright kept the two of them separated when he was breaking them up. It should have been stopped when Bute was only kept up by the ropes. People focus on the final round, but Wright's incompetence throughout that fight was the single worst refereeing performance I've seen.

Anyway not that it matters, Carl Froch would beat them all on the same night whilst simultaneously shagging his bird.

well said merkin

Biggest robbery since lewis-holyfield, how the hell some people on here can claim it was only 8 seconds

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But Jaz the point is the round was already over, when Lucian Bute went down. All he had to do was beat the count, and respond to the ref. Its the actions of the stupid ref, telling Librado Andrade to go in the neutral corner.

Which added to the controversy, which wasn't needed. Because if that hadn't of happened. Lucian Bute still would of won regardless, because the time in the round was already over. And no one would have been thinking that Lucian Bute deserved a loss, people make too much of it.

Yes the ref was bad but he didn't change the outcome of the fight.

Watch that final round and how long Wright kept the two of them separated when he was breaking them up. It should have been stopped when Bute was only kept up by the ropes. People focus on the final round, but Wright's incompetence throughout that fight was the single worst refereeing performance I've seen.

Anyway not that it matters, Carl Froch would beat them all on the same night whilst simultaneously shagging his bird.

well said merkin

Biggest robbery since lewis-holyfield, how the hell some people on here can claim it was only 8 seconds

Are you off your rocker ? seriously do yourself a favor. And count how long Lucian Bute was on the canvas. He got up at the count of 8, it took 27 seconds overall from the time Lucian Bute got up, too all the nonsense regarding the neutral corner.

But it only took 8 seconds for Lucian Bute to get up, and thats a fact. And the time in the round was already over so as i said, it didn't matter whether or not the ref, told off Librado Andrade about not being in the neutral corner.

The round was already over at the point, all Lucian Bute had to do was beat the count. And respond to the ref which he did, had the ref not have done that BS about the neutral corner. Then there would of been no controversy.

As for Jaz saying it should of been stopped before that, i totally disagree. The champion should always be given the benefit of the doubt especially in the last round to finish the fight, he wasn't defenseless. Although he was seriously hurt, but he survived and technically. He wasn't given any breaks regarding that, he survived on his heart and toughness.

And lastly the biggest robbery since Lewis vs Holyfield 1 ? wow are you kidding me ? considering everyone here voted Carl Froch vs Andre Dirrell as the robbery of the year last year.

[HattonTheHammer]

Watch that final round and how long Wright kept the two of them separated when he was breaking them up. It should have been stopped when Bute was only kept up by the ropes. People focus on the final round, but Wright's incompetence throughout that fight was the single worst refereeing performance I've seen.

Anyway not that it matters, Carl Froch would beat them all on the same night whilst simultaneously shagging his bird.

well said merkin

Biggest robbery since lewis-holyfield, how the hell some people on here can claim it was only 8 seconds

Are you off your rocker ? seriously do yourself a favor. And count how long Lucian Bute was on the canvas. He got up at the count of 8, it took 27 seconds overall from the time Lucian Bute got up, too all the nonsense regarding the neutral corner nonsense.

But it only took 8 seconds for Lucian Bute to get up, and thats a fact. And the time in the round was already over so as i said, it didn't matter whether or not the ref, told off Librado Andrade about not being in the neutral corner.

The round was already over at the point, all Lucian Bute had to do was beat the count. And respond to the ref which he did, had the ref not have done that BS about the neutral corner. Then there would of been no controversy.

As for Jaz saying it should of been stopped before that, i totally disagree. The champion should always be allowed to finish the fight, he was defenseless. Although he was seriously hurt, but he survived and technically. He wasn't given any breaks regarding that, he survived on his heart and toughness.

And lastly the biggest robbery since Lewis vs Holyfield 1 ? wow are you kidding me ? considering everyone here voted Carl Froch vs Andre Dirrell as the robbery of the year last year.

youve just answered your own question

[ICB]

well said merkin

Biggest robbery since lewis-holyfield, how the hell some people on here can claim it was only 8 seconds

Are you off your rocker ? seriously do yourself a favor. And count how long Lucian Bute was on the canvas. He got up at the count of 8, it took 27 seconds overall from the time Lucian Bute got up, too all the nonsense regarding the neutral corner nonsense.

But it only took 8 seconds for Lucian Bute to get up, and thats a fact. And the time in the round was already over so as i said, it didn't matter whether or not the ref, told off Librado Andrade about not being in the neutral corner.

The round was already over at the point, all Lucian Bute had to do was beat the count. And respond to the ref which he did, had the ref not have done that BS about the neutral corner. Then there would of been no controversy.

As for Jaz saying it should of been stopped before that, i totally disagree. The champion should always be allowed to finish the fight, he was defenseless. Although he was seriously hurt, but he survived and technically. He wasn't given any breaks regarding that, he survived on his heart and toughness.

And lastly the biggest robbery since Lewis vs Holyfield 1 ? wow are you kidding me ? considering everyone here voted Carl Froch vs Andre Dirrell as the robbery of the year last year.

youve just answered your own question

Uhh you made out he was down for 30 seconds, which was BS. He was down for 8 seconds it took 20+ seconds to sort out the mess, but that didn't matter. All i've done is show that you were wrong so i don't know. What your laughing at.

[RP33]

This thread is a joke. I won't take anything away from Froch, he is a good fighter.. but he is very beatable, and there is obvious proof from his tougher fights. He's by no means head and shoulders above the rest of the Super 6, so to say he's the best of this generation is laughable. That's great that you're british and so is Froch, so go talk to your brit friends about it and be merry about your hometown hero, don't bring that $hit here, though.