" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

[Fenster]

If Haye is really in dire need of a long rest after pulling out of 2 fights in the last year and fighting a whopping 2 more, then he might as well try something new. This man is not a proper boxer. A real fighter digs in deep and fights a good 3-4 times a year until he is regarded as great. No way Haye is anywhere near that level yet. What a phoney.

Says the English teacher.

Come on miles, you asked for that

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

[Gandalf]

Says the English teacher.

Come on miles, you asked for that

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

No, I wouldn't work for free. I agree that's not right, but Haye's reluctance to fight more than once or twice a year has been well noted and now talk of extended breaks. It's just not how a top level fighter should be. He's just had a fight and deserves a break, but any other fighter would be looking to bounce back within 3-5 months.

[killersheep]

Says the English teacher.

Come on miles, you asked for that

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

[Fenster]

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

[killersheep]

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

[Fenster]

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

What was HBO paying him compared with Setanta?

[AdamGB]

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

[killersheep]

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

[Kirkland Laing]

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

Mate haye IS a business not an employee, he doesn't clock in on his way to the ring and then keep 100% of his wage packet. He has expenses... Trainers, corner men, managers, promotions, nutritionists, gym space, equipment, transport, insurance amongst a crap load of other things and living expenses and thats just during camp. If he manages to get a couple of grand from hbo and his camp cost about the same then where does he stand.

I do agree that this is a bad statement from booth though. Especially afterwlads youtube rant

Understood, I'm not arguing any of that, but my point is still true. Haye's cut on a heavily hyped card (easily billed as the biggest heavyweight fight for a long time) would have exceeded whatever Setanta was going to pay him. Plus he would get a cut of the gate. Is it speculation? Sure, but it's not like HBO is going to pay a few thousand dollars to a fighter they had already spent tens of thousands promoting.

HBO were paying the promotion a license feee, they weren't paying the boxers individually. And the way the fight contract worked was that Junior got almost everything other than the Setanta money for the fight and then about 10 000 options on Haye afterwards. Haye probably would have made enough from the non-Setanta revenue streams to cover his expenses but would have been basically fighting for free.