" David "Haye is not considering any opponents right now, he needs rest"

[Fenster]

Fighters do actually get hurt.

A boxer that earns shit loads of money with the minimum amount of damage is what every pro aspires to

[Fenster]

An English teacher who has expectations about fighters in the sport he loves most, I might add. You don't see me cancelling lessons at the last minute because I'm not happy with certain students nor the money I myself originally negotiated.

I am a full time English teacher and a consummate pro in what I do. More than what can be said about part time Haye and his once a year approach to his own profession. There is no room for slacking in any profession, especially in one where your shelf life is so short.

I just think Haye should stay busy and push on for greatness. If he is serious about retiring at 31, where is the sense in taking any extended break in 2010 after beating the mighty John Ruiz? It makes no sense to me.

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

[killersheep]

Fighters do actually get hurt.

A boxer that earns shit loads of money with the minimum amount of damage is what every pro aspires to

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

[killersheep]

You wouldn't do your job for free though, right? And it doesn't entail the possiblilty of you getting dead... Unless you come across a mental student of course

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

[Fenster]

Fighters do actually get hurt.

A boxer that earns shit loads of money with the minimum amount of damage is what every pro aspires to

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

[Fenster]

So are you saying HBO (who had booked the date already) would not have paid Haye?

You still going on about Wlad-Haye? Tell me the HBO deal then?

Greater that $0 ergo he wouldn't be fighting for free.

What was HBO paying him compared with Setanta?

[generalbulldog]

Fighters do actually get hurt.

A boxer that earns shit loads of money with the minimum amount of damage is what every pro aspires to

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

No, we are saying either put up or shut up. He talked shit on Wlad, disrespected his family and talks big. Then backs out twice against both brothers.

When you pull stunts like that and don't back up your actions, people are saying wtf?

[killersheep]

Fighters do actually get hurt.

A boxer that earns shit loads of money with the minimum amount of damage is what every pro aspires to

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

If by that I mean he should have backed up his own words then yes I am crying about a fighter not entertaining me. Boxing IS entertainment, the money he gets is directly correlated to entertaining the fans, the fans don't get entertained, fans stop showing up and then no one gets paid.

No one doubts that a boxers life is dangerous, but he made that choice to live a lifestyle that puts himself in danger for the entertainment of the fans. Therefore he is obligated to do that ONE thing to get a paycheck step in the ring and entertain the fans.

[Fenster]

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

No, we are saying either put up or shut up. He talked shit on Wlad, disrespected his family and talks big. Then backs out twice against both brothers.

When you pull stunts like that and don't back up your actions, people are saying wtf?

Either way he is still entertaining you.

You love Haye threads.

[El Kabong]

No Fenster the people complaining about Wlad are the ones "complaining about a fighter not entertaining you"

Wlad will fight by the end of this summer probably vs Povetkin although Sam Peter has an outside shot. The yellow pride of England will probably fight the winner of Chagaev-Meehan a fight he'll probably lose.

[Fenster]

What does that have to do with anything? By that rationale Wlad and Haye should avoid each other for the duration of their respective careers. No one is forcing Haye to be a boxer he CHOSE to that, he CHOSE to say the fight he wants most is the klits, he CHOSE to make t-shirts showing their decapitated heads, he CHOSE to ambush WLAD calling him out. He CHOSE to make fun of Arreola even though Arreola actually backed up his talk and got in the ring with a Klit. If you are a professional athlete you are expected to perform.

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

If by that I mean he should have backed up his own words then yes I am crying about a fighter not entertaining me. Boxing IS entertainment, the money he gets is directly correlated to entertaining the fans, the fans don't get entertained, fans stop showing up and then no one gets paid.

No one doubts that a boxers life is dangerous, but he made that choice to live a lifestyle that puts himself in danger for the entertainment of the fans. Therefore he is obligated to do that ONE thing to get a paycheck step in the ring and entertain the fans.

Right.. maybe he believes it's best for him to decide his future not fans

[Fenster]

No Fenster the people complaining about Wlad are the ones "complaining about a fighter not entertaining you"

Wlad will fight by the end of this summer probably vs Povetkin although Sam Peter has an outside shot. The yellow pride of England will probably fight the winner of Chagaev-Meehan a fight he'll probably lose.

At least it will make you happy Lyle.

Imagine the horror you would suffer if Haye landed that right hand on Wlad's china chin.

[generalbulldog]

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

If by that I mean he should have backed up his own words then yes I am crying about a fighter not entertaining me. Boxing IS entertainment, the money he gets is directly correlated to entertaining the fans, the fans don't get entertained, fans stop showing up and then no one gets paid.

No one doubts that a boxers life is dangerous, but he made that choice to live a lifestyle that puts himself in danger for the entertainment of the fans. Therefore he is obligated to do that ONE thing to get a paycheck step in the ring and entertain the fans.

Right.. maybe he believes it's best for him to decide his future not fans

If that's the case, then stop talking about the brothers. Defend the WBA strap against other guys and come out and say I'm not fighting Wlad or Vitali and I can't back up the shit talking I did.

Most fans of the sport won't say anything about the subject anymore about Wlad/vitali-haye. We'll just talk about other fighters in the sport and other possible fights.

[killersheep]

No, as a fan I want to see the best fights.

Boxers fight for money, not to entertain fans.

History shows many boxers end up brain damaged and in certain cases dead. It's a dangerous business.

You are basically crying about a fighter not entertaining you.

If by that I mean he should have backed up his own words then yes I am crying about a fighter not entertaining me. Boxing IS entertainment, the money he gets is directly correlated to entertaining the fans, the fans don't get entertained, fans stop showing up and then no one gets paid.

No one doubts that a boxers life is dangerous, but he made that choice to live a lifestyle that puts himself in danger for the entertainment of the fans. Therefore he is obligated to do that ONE thing to get a paycheck step in the ring and entertain the fans.

Right.. maybe he believes it's best for him to decide his future not fans

It's not like the fans are asking him to do something he wasn't claiming he wanted to do himself, this is where the rub is.

[Fenster]

If by that I mean he should have backed up his own words then yes I am crying about a fighter not entertaining me. Boxing IS entertainment, the money he gets is directly correlated to entertaining the fans, the fans don't get entertained, fans stop showing up and then no one gets paid.

No one doubts that a boxers life is dangerous, but he made that choice to live a lifestyle that puts himself in danger for the entertainment of the fans. Therefore he is obligated to do that ONE thing to get a paycheck step in the ring and entertain the fans.

Right.. maybe he believes it's best for him to decide his future not fans

If that's the case, then stop talking about the brothers. Defend the WBA strap against other guys and come out and say I'm not fighting Wlad or Vitali and I can't back up the shit talking I did.

Most fans of the sport won't say anything about the subject anymore about Wlad/vitali-haye. We'll just talk about other fighters in the sport and other possible fights.

Come on, you love Haye threads.

Is it concrete he's not fighting a Klit?