Why Carl Froch is the greatest super middleweight of this generation

[JonnyFolds]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

[CFH]

I think Dirrell is a big baby and Froch is a piss poor boxer.

Bute should have lost the first Andrade fight. But now that he wiped the floor with him, I think it's a moot point.

To HTH: Nothing in boxing says the champ gets to take a complete ass whooping if he is ahead on the cards without the threat of the fight being stopped. Aside from that fact he was slumped in his corner after being flattened, he got a looong count, which was actually longer than the original "the long count" (Tunney -Dempsey II)

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Froch. Annoying. Bag of shyte.

[HattonTheHammer]

Have you actually seen the fight ? he didn't get a long count. Count how long it took him to get up, he clearly got up by 8. And by the time he got up, the time in the round was already over.

Yes what the ref done was wrong telling Librado Andrade to go to the neutral corner. But so what ? that made no difference in the fight, because the time in the round was already over.

All Lucian Bute had to do was get up in time, which he clearly did. He responded to the ref and won legitmately, so why should he have lost ? i keep hearing this but why exactly ? because he was badly hurt ?

So what ? he got up and showed heart and won, he only got in that position because he made a mistake, by trading in the last round. It would of been a bigger robbery had Librado Andrade been given the win. With no time left in the fight.

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

[Nameless]

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

So, one month for the bet?

[HattonTheHammer]

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

So, one month for the bet?

youve got to remember mate im a well respected figure around here if a miracle upon all miracles occured and kessler actually beat froch id have a fortnight of embarrasment and while the majority would see my sig/av change as nothing more than just a great prank by the sites funniest poster the newbies to the forum need an ambassador and more importantly someone to look up to.

I`ll humiliate you for 2 weeks

[Nameless]

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

So, one month for the bet?

youve got to remember mate im a well respected figure around here if a miracle upon all miracles occured and kessler actually beat froch id have a fortnight of embarrasment and while the majority would see my sig/av change as nothing more than just a great prank by the sites funniest poster the newbies to the forum need an ambassador and more importantly someone to look up to.

I`ll humiliate you for 2 weeks

Ok, fine, I'll take two week then.















WIMP

[ICB]

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

It seems to me you haven't even watched the fight, he was in trouble with 1 minute to go. He got knocked down with 2 seconds left in the round, by the time he got up at the count of 8 the round was over.

Where are you getting 38 from ? all you have to do is watch the clip, and count yourself. He wasn't floored 45 seconds before the final bell, he was floored with 2 seconds left in the round.

[Youngblood]

fixed ya thread title buddy.

[CFH]

I guarantee you he could not take 2 steps forward by the count of 8. Bute was out of it halfway thru the 12th round on.. Even he feels bad about the way he won. What do you think "kept him up at night for a year" according to Bute himself before the rematch.

I'm not sure who was more out of it, 'Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez' or Bute

By the IBF's rules he didn't have to. The fight ended the moment his gloves cleared the canvas. He could have literally stood up and fallen over again and technically he would have won because the fight ended when his gloves cleared the canvas as there was no time left in the round.

the argument isnt about did he make the final bell

its about the 45odd seconds before that when he was camped out on the deck and then grabbing the ropes for dear life to make it up at the eventual 8 that most of us could of counted to 38

He got knocked down with less than 10 seconds to go in the round and he gets up right around any logical count of 10 and before the refs count. You're saying you think it should have been stopped before then? That would have been a huge mistake on the refs part.

I was cheering for Andrade and the ref did a horrible job throughout the fight, but the final decision was correct.