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    Default Re: Haye v Klit - Negotiations underway confirms IBF

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Hahaha that is the question buddy!
    I dont think that is the question really. Now it is probably not a good idea for Haye to fight a Klit for free, and if that was going to happen then fine. Dont make up shit about being injured tho, just say the deal fell thru and u werent getting paid. No matter how u spin it Haye has had contracts with both Klits and hasn't managed to fight either yet.

    It is ridiculous to ask El Terrible if he would fight Klit for free, because he is not a world class boxer/athlete like Haye is. El Terrible has also not told the media he would beat the Klits easily, and that he would fight them for free as Haye has done in the past.

    I believe Haye is as good a chance as anyone to beat the Klits but i cant see him doing it.
    He wouldn't have legally been allowed to disclose information about Setanta at the time, hence the fake injury.
    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
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    I dont think that is the question really. Now it is probably not a good idea for Haye to fight a Klit for free, and if that was going to happen then fine. Dont make up shit about being injured tho, just say the deal fell thru and u werent getting paid. No matter how u spin it Haye has had contracts with both Klits and hasn't managed to fight either yet.

    It is ridiculous to ask El Terrible if he would fight Klit for free, because he is not a world class boxer/athlete like Haye is. El Terrible has also not told the media he would beat the Klits easily, and that he would fight them for free as Haye has done in the past.

    I believe Haye is as good a chance as anyone to beat the Klits but i cant see him doing it.
    He wouldn't have legally been allowed to disclose information about Setanta at the time, hence the fake injury.
    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?
    Why does he have to? If he confirms he was lying, people are going to be skeptical if he has to pull out of another fight.

    Plus it matters little anyway. He went away, travelled to Germany to pick up a belt. Defended it in an exciting fight in a sold out, 20,000 capacity arena. Now he has more power at the negotiating table, and negotiations are under way for the fight. I don't see what he's got to aplogise for.
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    Default Re: Haye v Klit - Negotiations underway confirms IBF

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
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    I dont think that is the question really. Now it is probably not a good idea for Haye to fight a Klit for free, and if that was going to happen then fine. Dont make up shit about being injured tho, just say the deal fell thru and u werent getting paid. No matter how u spin it Haye has had contracts with both Klits and hasn't managed to fight either yet.

    It is ridiculous to ask El Terrible if he would fight Klit for free, because he is not a world class boxer/athlete like Haye is. El Terrible has also not told the media he would beat the Klits easily, and that he would fight them for free as Haye has done in the past.

    I believe Haye is as good a chance as anyone to beat the Klits but i cant see him doing it.
    He wouldn't have legally been allowed to disclose information about Setanta at the time, hence the fake injury.
    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?
    Does it really fucking matter??

    We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

    Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

    Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.

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    Default Re: Haye v Klit - Negotiations underway confirms IBF

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    He wouldn't have legally been allowed to disclose information about Setanta at the time, hence the fake injury.
    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?
    Does it really fucking matter??

    We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

    Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

    Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.
    Exactly, i love how nobody seems arsed that Klitschko demanded a rematch, plus a fight with Vitali (for Haye), aswell as 100% of the gate receipts, and 100% of the non-British tv broadcasts.

    I mean you could even make a case for Klitschko not really wanting the fight. I'm not going to because it's boring and in any case, they're negotiating again anyway. What will be will be.
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    I'd rather he fought Vitali first, I think he beats him and in style. Wlad on the other hand is just too skilled & disciplined and I can only see it ending badly for him sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    He wouldn't have legally been allowed to disclose information about Setanta at the time, hence the fake injury.
    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?
    Does it really fucking matter??

    We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

    Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

    Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.
    Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post

    Well has he now come out and apologised for lying?
    Does it really fucking matter??

    We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

    Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

    Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.
    Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.
    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    Does it really fucking matter??

    We have a potential superfight in the HW division set to be signed in the next month and your bitching about little details that happened last year.

    Haye is on board with Sky now and is the biggest named sports star in Britain at the minute, he has absolutley nothing to pull out for again and the fight WILL go ahead this time as long as the Klits don't demand 12 fucking rematches.

    Why not whine about them circumstances instead of Hayes faults for once?? I've never heard anything like it..... "If you (haye) beat Wlad you must then fight his brother and then fight Wlad and then fight Vitali again". If that had happened none of them would have held a title by the end of it. It was pathetic.
    Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.
    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are
    I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.

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    Default Re: Haye v Klit - Negotiations underway confirms IBF

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.
    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are
    I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.
    Difference is my mum and Grandma both know who David Haye is. I know they don't know who Kevin Pietersen, Johnny Wilkinson and Floyd Mayweather are. Even Rio Ferdinand says that Haye is the biggest named sports star in the country.

    Only one I think challenges him is Rooney. Also maybe Ricky Hatton, his support is amazing. Man utd couldn't take as many fans to Vegas as he does and there is a full team of them. If Haye keeps bowling them over like he is he'll have the same support if not better because he is in the glamour division of boxing and he is exciting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are
    I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.
    Difference is my mum and Grandma both know who David Haye is. I know they don't know who Kevin Pietersen, Johnny Wilkinson and Floyd Mayweather are. Even Rio Ferdinand says that Haye is the biggest named sports star in the country.

    Only one I think challenges him is Rooney. Also maybe Ricky Hatton, his support is amazing. Man utd couldn't take as many fans to Vegas as he does and there is a full team of them. If Haye keeps bowling them over like he is he'll have the same support if not better because he is in the glamour division of boxing and he is exciting to watch.
    Sorry he's just nowhere near the likes of Rooney, Gerrard & Terry. I'd argue that both Flintoff & Wilkinson are also both ahead of him. It may be that your mum & nan know who Haye is through you being a fan and going to his fights. My mum needs reminding about who David Haye is despite the fact I've told her a number of times that he even came from the same gym as me. On the other hand, she'd know Floyd Mayweather & Shane Mosley are instantly because when I was growing up I was such a big fan of both of them.

    Just generally with people I've met in the area I live in (South London, Haye's own area) Mayweather definitely has a quicker recognition factor, maybe because he's got a more individual name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    Probably the biggest boxing star from the UK (I'd still speculate that Mayweather & maybe Pacquiao are bigger here), but he's nowhere near the level of any of the top name footballers. In terms of name recognition, I reckon he's still below a few of the rugby and cricket players as well.
    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are
    I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.
    Where you seeing this then?

    This fight has barely had a mention in the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    You think Floyd and Manny are bigger stars in the UK than David Haye?

    I doubt any more than 15% of the population even know who Floyd and Manny are
    I think you'd be surprised. People might not watch them fight, but I think they've both embedded into the public consciousness as boxers. Part of that may be the name. I'm seeing a lot more excitement for the Mayweather fight this weekend than there was for Haye-Ruiz or even Haye-Valuev. I'm not saying the PPV would do better, but that they have more name recognition with the average person.
    Where you seeing this then?

    This fight has barely had a mention in the press.
    Just people talking about it on facebook and twitter. I agree it hasn't had much mention in the press, in contrast Froch did, but nobody was talking about it.

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