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    Default Re: That round 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
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    What fight did you watch? That fight was filled with faints... (I'm going to hit you and then, nothing by mouth like school kids in the playground but old) it was nearing the point of being pathetic. Not that far off from Jones/Hopkins.
    The fight I went to. Mayweather did far more than Hopkins did against Jones and he landed way more effective punches than he even did against Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd really gave a beating to Mosley and him a lot of times with punches that looked like they bothered Mosley.
    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
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    Default Re: That round 2...

    the real question should be

    If Mosley would have hit Pacquiao with the same shots he hurt Floyd with in the 2nd round, would Manny of gotten KTFO?!?
    IMO yes

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    Default Re: That round 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    the real question should be

    If Mosley would have hit Pacquiao with the same shots he hurt Floyd with in the 2nd round, would Manny of gotten KTFO?!?
    IMO yes
    i thought we were talking about mayweather mosley round #2?
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    Default Re: That round 2...

    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.
    Thing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.

    The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.

    Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.

    if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.

    Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..

    Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it

    Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.

    Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.

    Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.



    The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.

    I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.
    Thing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.

    The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.

    Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.

    if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.

    Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..

    Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it

    Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.

    Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.

    Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.



    The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
    This is what I mean by blinded from being teabagged by floyd....Shane was tired before he even landed the big shots on floyd.He was breathing with his mouth open half way through the first round. He looked old from the start of the fight and even said "I just couldn't pull the trigger like I wanted to"...

    There is no evidence in the history shane mosley to suggest that he backs off when engaged regardless of what the other fighter is doing. He still went forward against winky, vernon, oscar, mayorga, vargas....5 guys who all hit much harder than PBF.

    tired and fatique = "can't pull the trigger like I wanted to"


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    Default Re: That round 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..

    Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it

    Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.

    Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.

    Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.

    Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.



    The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
    One of Floyd's greatest assets is his ability to make adjustments. When we see a fighter get the best of him early on we think, "this could be a great fight!", because it's a given that Floyd will make an adjustment and turn the momentum. You just wonder how long the opponent can sustain the advantage, or if he can regain the momentum later.

    We won't see a great fight with Floyd until his opponent is able to be effective early, and then himself make an effective adjustment to Floyd's inevitable momentum changing adjustment.

    Question: Did Shane give blood or just urine in that last test he had right before the fight? I'm just wondering if he gave blood, if Pac will say, "See Mosely gave blood right before the fight and it ruined him!"?

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    Default Re: That round 2...

    Wow both of you should just shut up

    El terrible argued two years ago with me about how marquez was as good as Pacquiao if not better, look how that turned out.

    Jonesmayweather argued Mosley was the guy to beat Mayweather, look how that turned out.

    People may not agree with me on here, but I almost always end up right.

    I'm pissed of because Terrible has consistently been wrong, and I get criticized because I have the foresight to know how good certain fighters are. I stated the greatness of Mayweather and Pacquiao far before most people on here, and I've been 100% right with both of them. People think its hubris to believe a modern fighter could conceivably be the best ever, but either one of these guys have a great chance accomplishing that in many peoples' minds. The fact is their both significantly better than anyone else who has been in the sport over the last 20 years, except maybe Whitaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    The fight I went to. Mayweather did far more than Hopkins did against Jones and he landed way more effective punches than he even did against Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd really gave a beating to Mosley and him a lot of times with punches that looked like they bothered Mosley.
    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
    Dumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...

    Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
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    Default Re: That round 2...

    You have issues dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post

    You have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..
    Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.

    I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
    Dumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...

    Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
    I am not the one trying to force my negative opinion down peoples throat.
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    Default Re: That round 2...

    No proffesional sportsman who has trained for that long should be tired after two round, regardless of age.

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    Default Re: That round 2...

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    No proffesional sportsman who has trained for that long should be tired after two round, regardless of age.

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    Credit to Floyd, it was an outstanding performance after getting rocked heavily in that 2nd round. Mosley was gone by the 3rd and was pretty predictable from then on in. Also have to give credit to Mosley for staying in there to the final bell, many would have quit but his heart of a Lion prevailed.

    I can only help wonder what what would have happened if that was Manny Pacquiao in that situation with Floyd hurt in the 2nd round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rascal View Post
    Credit to Floyd, it was an outstanding performance after getting rocked heavily in that 2nd round. Mosley was gone by the 3rd and was pretty predictable from then on in. Also have to give credit to Mosley for staying in there to the final bell, many would have quit but his heart of a Lion prevailed.

    I can only help wonder what what would have happened if that was Manny Pacquiao in that situation with Floyd hurt in the 2nd round.
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