Pac's not ready for Floyd....

[Gandalf]

Pac's ready , he'd make it competitive. Let's not get in too much in the Mayweather hype. Sure , he dominated an old Mosley . Not taking anything away from PBF, but Mosley was losing to Mayorga before the ko. So its a pic em fight imo

True, Mayweather is good, but I'm not sold on the Mosley fight. There is always a way to beat a man who will not throw more than 40 punches a round.

[gest12645]

exactly , . Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight. And I'll be the first one to say it

Pacman wins almost every round against Mosley .

[Gandalf]

exactly , . Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight. And I'll be the first one to say it

Pacman wins almost every round against Mosley .

Yeah, Pac would have eaten this version of Mosley for breakfast. Too old and hesitant by far. I actually think Pac is more than ready for Mayweather, the question is "is Mayweather ready for Pac?". I just can't see Mayweather winning enough rounds, he will need to KO Pac to guarantee the win and nobody has been hurting Pac recently. I don't care about facial bruising, nobody has been really hurting Manny. Sure, his output will be reduced, but no way you will see him throwing 30 punches a round like Mosley. Mayweather likes to wait and Manny is quick enough and active enough to make Mayweather pay.

[gest12645]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

[Gandalf]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.

[generalbulldog]

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses.

[miron_lang]

Even if Pac is not ready the fight has to happen right away.

If Floyd dominates Manny then so be it but this should not take another year or so.


If Manny looks good againts tailor made opponents, How about Floyd?

A 36 yr old career featherweight and a 40 yr old 1 and a half year off from his last fight veteran. That is less impressive than Cotto and Clottey IMO.


I agree Floyd must be favored here but PAC is more dangerous when he is the underdog.

[NuthaPug]

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses.

No one has ever had to make excuses for Floyd yet.

if he gets beat, he gets beat. No excuses needed.

it's the others who always need excuses against Floyd.

But if Mayweather and Pac get in the ring together within the next year, neither of them should look for any excuses. One of them will lose, because the other will win. Pure and simple.

Of course, if Manny loses to Floyd, Miles will surely be looking for some kind of excuse. But most of the boxing world will simply recognize that Floyd's a better boxer.

i don't know who will win that fight; I haven't seen Manny in the ring nearly as much as i've seen Floyd, so I don't have a feel for him. I hope he brings Floyd his greatest challenge yet, because if he does, we'll see an incredible fight. we don't know how good Floyd can be. The better his opponent, the closer we come to finding that out.

If Manny brings out the very best in Floyd and still beats him ... well, then, that will be amazing and should qualify for one of the fights of the decade, if not the fight.

That's the kind of fight I want to see Floyd lose - where he was pressed to fight his best - which will be dazzling - and still unable to produce a victory.

Ring rust? Floyd? Is that why he did such a mediocre job against Mosely?

[gest12645]

honestly , i think it'd be a close fight, but I'd still go with Mayweather. He's too big and skilled. but I wouldnt be money on this one . I've bet large amounts of cash on all of Mayweathers recent fights (on PBF) but this one is too close to call.

It's a tough one. I can see it going both ways, but both fighters have this uncanny knack of surprising you. I think too many are dismissing Manny on the back of the Mosley fight though. He will be a lot better than what Mosley was. Mosley always had a few question marks about him with the layoff and age.

Thats true, ppl have been on Floyd on the front and on the back after the Mosley fight.

[Boxer4life]

if this fight gets made, there will be no excuses........no one can say anything about the winner...they cant say o the opponent was.......nothing like that can be said, both guys are dominant, the fight is nothign but fair.....legendary

[mickel]

if pac hurts mayweather like that in the second round, it will be all over for floyd.

Who pac has fought in the past three years is far more impressive than who mayweather has fought. There's no comparison!

[El Kabong]

if pac hurts mayweather like that in the second round, it will be all over for floyd.

Who pac has fought in the past three years is far more impressive than who mayweather has fought. There's no comparison!

I totally agree, if Pac hurts Floyd he'll close it out....BUT those counter rights hurt Shane Mosley and if Floyd is able to hurt Shane then I think he's going to rock the hell out of Manny.

Either way I no longer see this fight going the distance

[JSwift]

I dont believe either of their resumes for the past few fights should be considered all star caliber. And while a lot of emphasis on this post seems to be focused on punching power. I think that Floyd's counter punching and more importantly, his 5-6 inch reach advantage will be a major factor. Of course this wont be the first time Pac has fought a man with longer arms, but fighting a guy with longer arms whose primary attacks are the left hand check hook and the straight right hand could spell problems. Maybe if Pac used more lateral movement I would feel better about his chances. Or the fact that Clottey could hit him when he decided during every lunar eclipse to throw a punch. There's no excuse for Manny's face to look like that after that fight.

[toe2toe]

I dont believe either of their resumes for the past few fights should be considered all star caliber. And while a lot of emphasis on this post seems to be focused on punching power. I think that Floyd's counter punching and more importantly, his 5-6 inch reach advantage will be a major factor. Of course this wont be the first time Pac has fought a man with longer arms, but fighting a guy with longer arms whose primary attacks are the left hand check hook and the straight right hand could spell problems. Maybe if Pac used more lateral movement I would feel better about his chances. Or the fact that Clottey could hit him when he decided during every lunar eclipse to throw a punch. There's no excuse for Manny's face to look like that after that fight.

clottey's offense was irrelevant. pacquiao won almost all the rounds. he dominated clottey and clottey didn't really hurt or wobbled pacquiao.

[Chino]

Mayweather likes to wait and Manny is quick enough and active enough to make Mayweather pay

Sure, can't really compare Hatton to Pac but he kept his pressure on Mayweather and looked busy only to have Mayweather countering him until a late stoppage. I thought pressure fighters who throw punches all night was just another style that favored Floyd.

Well for sure these will be the excuses when 1 of them loses.

For Manny's supporters: Too small and jumping up too much in weight
For Floyd's supporters: Too old and ring rust

I'm sure these will be the excuses

Just like the excuses given for Mayweather's victories. People where bashing him because he wouldn't face a real welter and even throwing Shane's name in there. Floyd beats him and excuses were still heard about how Shane was no good.

Floyd was stunned by Mosley , and Pac is a fast starter , so he can catch Floyd early and change the whole fight

Floyd has been sparked two or three times in his whole career (Corley, Judah, and Mosley) only to come back and dominate the fight and come out clean as if he didn't even get in the ring. Manny has been kocked out, sparked, hurt, wobbly legs, exhausted, cut, bruised, etc. I give Pac a puncher's chance and when it comes to punching fast and with power, Pac's the man so far. I give Floyd the boxers/defense/speed/smarts chance. I see Floyd with more tricks in his bag than Manny. Still, if someone can beat Floyd the only one that comes to mind is Manny.

That's the kind of fight I want to see Floyd lose - where he was pressed to fight his best - which will be dazzling - and still unable to produce a victory

Exactly. A fight where the loser showed he gave it his best. For example, I don't feel that bad for ODLH loss vs Hopkins. Oscar was throwing his fast piercing jab, left hook, speedy combinations, working the body, defense, etc. and lost the fight. He brought it all to the table and lost. That is why I don't give Pac so much credit for his win vs Oscar as Oscar didn't do ANYTHING really. Same thing with any other guy who has fought after his prime and just looked bad: Camacho vs Leonard, Ali vs Berbick, Tyson vs McBride, etc.

he dominated clottey and clottey didn't really hurt or wobbled pacquiao

It took just a few punches to bust Pac's face as it normally happens to him in every single fight.