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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Nothing you have said here is of direct relevance to the debate. Like I said, you HAVE to question the mindset of these boys. Without going on a rant about how much you hate the Mexicans for the way they shaped your history, tell me.... Question why do it? On this day?
    They were in The United States of America .....is that not a good enough reason?


    The idea of kicking these students out of school for wearing American flag t-shirts is 100% against everything The United States is about because the boys wearing the t-shirts did not prevent the people from celebrating Cinco de Mayo and THAT my friend is the bottom line....free speech isn't always nice and pleasant and fun, but sometimes a t-shirt is just a t-shirt and in this case an American from ANY ethnic group should be outraged that this happened.

    I also find it highly offensive that the illegal immigrants wave Mexican flags when they protest immigration policy....that's just fucking idiotic, but I don't think just because they wave the Mexican flag that they should be thrown out of the country just on account of the flag thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    They were in The United States of America .....is that not a good enough reason?


    The idea of kicking these students out of school for wearing American flag t-shirts is 100% against everything The United States is about because the boys wearing the t-shirts did not prevent the people from celebrating Cinco de Mayo and THAT my friend is the bottom line....free speech isn't always nice and pleasant and fun, but sometimes a t-shirt is just a t-shirt and in this case an American from ANY ethnic group should be outraged that this happened.

    I also find it highly offensive that the illegal immigrants wave Mexican flags when they protest immigration policy....that's just fucking idiotic, but I don't think just because they wave the Mexican flag that they should be thrown out of the country just on account of the flag thing.
    To be fair, I see your point.

    But it's still a difficult situation to handle when its pretty clear that these boys knew they were going to cause trouble before they went into school with their own definition of 'uniform'.

    But then I accept, of course, the fact that this raises the question of whether or not this was an act of co-patriotism or indeed counter-patriotism.

    Obviously teachers in this day and age are far too consumed with national curriculum & political correctness to really delve into correcting or aligning social issues as complex as this and therefore yes maybe they are guilty of simply copping out for an easy solution.

    But can you not accept that there is usually a pattern to these proceedings? I mean, you must see that it is HIGHLY unlikely (as even you have proven yourself) that these kids are able to fully comprehend total passive patriotism. Its always ''get one up, get one back, we'll show em, fuck em, bomb em''.... Like I say, there is usually a pattern to these proceedings. But i'll accept that the teaches took the easy option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    They were in The United States of America .....is that not a good enough reason?


    The idea of kicking these students out of school for wearing American flag t-shirts is 100% against everything The United States is about because the boys wearing the t-shirts did not prevent the people from celebrating Cinco de Mayo and THAT my friend is the bottom line....free speech isn't always nice and pleasant and fun, but sometimes a t-shirt is just a t-shirt and in this case an American from ANY ethnic group should be outraged that this happened.

    I also find it highly offensive that the illegal immigrants wave Mexican flags when they protest immigration policy....that's just fucking idiotic, but I don't think just because they wave the Mexican flag that they should be thrown out of the country just on account of the flag thing.
    Illegal immigrants protest the immigration policy? In what way? How you do know they're illegal? Why would an illegal immigrant bring attention to himself in this sort of way? Correct me if i'm wrong, but that doesn't sound right.

    The reason the kids were sent home (not thrown out of school) for the day was because the t-shirts were seen as provocative because they didn't wear them on any other day. I know it's their right to wear whatever they like, but at the same time, choosing to wear a certain garment purely to provoke a reaction is wrong, and it could have caused problems. It's an incredibly twatish thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Nothing you have said here is of direct relevance to the debate. Like I said, you HAVE to question the mindset of these boys. Without going on a rant about how much you hate the Mexicans for the way they shaped your history, tell me.... Question why do it? On this day?
    They were in The United States of America .....is that not a good enough reason?


    The idea of kicking these students out of school for wearing American flag t-shirts is 100% against everything The United States is about because the boys wearing the t-shirts did not prevent the people from celebrating Cinco de Mayo and THAT my friend is the bottom line....free speech isn't always nice and pleasant and fun, but sometimes a t-shirt is just a t-shirt and in this case an American from ANY ethnic group should be outraged that this happened.

    I also find it highly offensive that the illegal immigrants wave Mexican flags when they protest immigration policy....that's just fucking idiotic, but I don't think just because they wave the Mexican flag that they should be thrown out of the country just on account of the flag thing.
    I agree with most of what you wrote. Except for being offended by immigration protest thing which really doesn't bother me. Even though I am against them, there is some benefit to school uniforms.
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    Yes, in conclusion I will argue that schools are no place to celebrate foreign holidays and that uniforms are a pretty good idea. No Mexican shirts and therefore no American shirts either. It can work both ways and and at all times. That's how a school can avoid these issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Yes, in conclusion I will argue that schools are no place to celebrate foreign holidays and that uniforms are a pretty good idea. No Mexican shirts and therefore no American shirts either. It can work both ways and and at all times. That's how a school can avoid these issues.
    Schools tend to celebrate these sort of days to teach the kids about the history and significance of such holidays. Cinco De Mayo has significance because it celebrates the fact that Puebla in Mexico resisited invasion by France, despite being vastly outnumbered. Eventually Mexico became occupied by the French, but that's beside the point. It's relevant to teach in America as there are Mexicans in the country and there are Americans with Mexican ancestry.

    The kids broke the US flag code aswell, which is both bewildering and funny....in equal measures.
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