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    Default Re: US students kicked of school campus for wearing US flag t-shirts

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    We're quite clearly on different ends of the spectrum. They were sent home to prevent a situation between the Hispanic kids and the American kids. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Yes we apparently ARE on different ends of the spectrum....children at a SCHOOL (a place of learning and understanding) were discriminated against because something "might" have happened.

    In AMERICA (apparently unlike in England) the rule of the majority is the law of the land however the rights and liberties of the minorities are respected. And in the case of these children the majority was FORCED to acquiesce because something (that's the symbol of the country this happened in) may have been PERCEIVED as inflamatory and that is RIDICULOUS and for you not to see that is outright shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    We're quite clearly on different ends of the spectrum. They were sent home to prevent a situation between the Hispanic kids and the American kids. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Yes we apparently ARE on different ends of the spectrum....children at a SCHOOL (a place of learning and understanding) were discriminated against because something "might" have happened.

    In AMERICA (apparently unlike in England) the rule of the majority is the law of the land however the rights and liberties of the minorities are respected. And in the case of these children the majority was FORCED to acquiesce because something (that's the symbol of the country this happened in) may have been PERCEIVED as inflamatory and that is RIDICULOUS and for you not to see that is outright shocking.
    Do you not believe the kids were wearing the t-shirts to provoke or send out a message to the Mexican kids at the school?
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    Default Re: US students kicked of school campus for wearing US flag t-shirts

    lets keep it going.
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    Default Re: US students kicked of school campus for wearing US flag t-shirts

    I wonder what the Grey Lion's thoughts are on these new developments...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I wonder what the Grey Lion's thoughts are on these new developments...
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    Do you not believe the kids were wearing the t-shirts to provoke or send out a message to the Mexican kids at the school?
    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case? Sure but then it wouldn't have been about sending the kids home for wearing American flag apparel but for being disruptive in attitude or behavior and that is more acceptable to me if that is the case but I have heard/read/seen nothing to support that what I described was actually the case.

    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive. The American culture has been a lot more inclusive in recent years look at New York we have the Puerto Rican Day parade, St. Paddy's Day Parade, etc.....we're a melting pot and the key to that is that the groups that moved here in the past have assimilated into society, lots of Mexicans would rather be Mexican than be considered American or Mexican-American.

    I just think that certain groups are trying to be so PC that average Americans have no say, are able to support nothing, and are able to do nothing but acquiesce to special intrest groups and that's bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Do you not believe the kids were wearing the t-shirts to provoke or send out a message to the Mexican kids at the school?
    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case? Sure but then it wouldn't have been about sending the kids home for wearing American flag apparel but for being disruptive in attitude or behavior and that is more acceptable to me if that is the case but I have heard/read/seen nothing to support that what I described was actually the case.

    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive. The American culture has been a lot more inclusive in recent years look at New York we have the Puerto Rican Day parade, St. Paddy's Day Parade, etc.....we're a melting pot and the key to that is that the groups that moved here in the past have assimilated into society, lots of Mexicans would rather be Mexican than be considered American or Mexican-American.

    I just think that certain groups are trying to be so PC that average Americans have no say, are able to support nothing, and are able to do nothing but acquiesce to special intrest groups and that's bullshit
    Erm, surely the Principal sending the kids home should ring some alarm bells? No?

    Do you believe those kids wear the flag t-shirts regulalrly? and was it just a coincedence that they all chose to wear it on that very same day - 5th May? If they do, then i'd agree with you. They're not doing anything out of the ordinary. But i believe they chose to wear them purely to get a reaction and that's why i feel the Principal was right in sending them home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Do you not believe the kids were wearing the t-shirts to provoke or send out a message to the Mexican kids at the school?
    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case? Sure but then it wouldn't have been about sending the kids home for wearing American flag apparel but for being disruptive in attitude or behavior and that is more acceptable to me if that is the case but I have heard/read/seen nothing to support that what I described was actually the case.

    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive. The American culture has been a lot more inclusive in recent years look at New York we have the Puerto Rican Day parade, St. Paddy's Day Parade, etc.....we're a melting pot and the key to that is that the groups that moved here in the past have assimilated into society, lots of Mexicans would rather be Mexican than be considered American or Mexican-American.

    I just think that certain groups are trying to be so PC that average Americans have no say, are able to support nothing, and are able to do nothing but acquiesce to special intrest groups and that's bullshit

    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case?

    Doesn't the mere fact that they went to the news stations and are planning to sue over this suggest they are were more concerned with making a statement than in building relations with their Mexican classmates?


    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive.

    I agree which is why when the principle felt these kids were acting in ways that would be considered exclusive, he acted in accordance with progressive and reconcilliatory American sentiment in telling them remove the clothing or else take the afternoon off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case?

    Doesn't the mere fact that they went to the news stations and are planning to sue over this suggest they are were more concerned with making a statement than in building relations with their Mexican classmates?


    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive.

    I agree which is why when the principle felt these kids were acting in ways that would be considered exclusive, he acted in accordance with progressive and reconcilliatory American sentiment in telling them remove the clothing or else take the afternoon off.
    #1. No, I think I'd be outraged enough to call in the news if that had happened to my kids. And yes I would sue on account of this it is that outrageous.

    #2. Yes but let's not forget it's IN AMERICA that they are celebrating Cinco de Mayo a MEXICAN holiday...in Mexico do they recognize the 4th of July or Memorial Day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu apprentice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    No and nothing has been reported to my knowledge to support such a line of thought. Could it have been the case?

    Doesn't the mere fact that they went to the news stations and are planning to sue over this suggest they are were more concerned with making a statement than in building relations with their Mexican classmates?


    Also Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday and I find that since it's apparently being celebrated in American schools it shows that we're trying to be inclusive.

    I agree which is why when the principle felt these kids were acting in ways that would be considered exclusive, he acted in accordance with progressive and reconcilliatory American sentiment in telling them remove the clothing or else take the afternoon off.
    #1. No, I think I'd be outraged enough to call in the news if that had happened to my kids. And yes I would sue on account of this it is that outrageous.

    #2. Yes but let's not forget it's IN AMERICA that they are celebrating Cinco de Mayo a MEXICAN holiday...in Mexico do they recognize the 4th of July or Memorial Day?
    American's aren't repatriating to Mexico though, I guess because it's a shit hole with nothing there worth taking. They are instead setting up communities in Iraq and Afghanistan and helping themselves to those countries natural resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    American's aren't repatriating to Mexico though, I guess because it's a shit hole with nothing there worth taking. They are instead setting up communities in Iraq and Afghanistan and helping themselves to those countries natural resources.
    ....so it's cool that the US allows people from other cultures and countries to celebrate whatever they like but our own citizens in their own country can't support their country

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