Where is this secret footage that shows Floyd being faster then Manny?

[Althugz]

Mayweather is faster. That's obvious. His speed is amazing. Pacquiao is fast. But he's been made to look even faster than he really is cuz of all the slow fighters he's been facing. Clottey. Hatton. Old De La Hoya. Compared to them Pacquiao seems to be operating at warp speed. Mayweather speed was proven when he faced another fast fighter in Mosley.

and they say Floyd cherry picks...

[milmascaras1]

no doubt that mayweather jr. has faster hands than pacquiao. not only that, he's got better ring intelligence, reflexes and defense. pacquiao's boxing ability has improved but he still gets tagged way too many times to be anywhere as intelligent as mayweather jr..

[fan johnny]

I think Floyd has a faster left jab and a quicker one punch from the hip. The other thing that helps Floyd is his amazing body control. Pacquiao has a faster combination punch than Floyd. His combination punches come from different angles and have surprising accuracy. Their foot work is comparable as far as speed is concerned.

So each fighter has his own speed advantage. There is only way to resolve the opinions.

[:::PSL:::]

Both fighters are accurate. But Floyd averages only 37 punches per round, and throws them conventionally. Manny averages 96 punches per round, and throws them in so many weird angles. If you'd do the math, I think the numbers will speak for it self.

[:::PSL:::]

...heck, Manny even has the ability to dart in and land both right hook and left hook at the same time and dart out quickly to avoid counter. Lol!

[Violent Demise]

Both fighters are accurate. But Floyd averages only 37 punches per round, and throws them conventionally. Manny averages 96 punches per round, and throws them in so many weird angles. If you'd do the math, I think the numbers will speak for it self.

Pay attention to the question.

[milmascaras1]

just because pacquiao throws over 90 punches per round and floyd jr. averages 37 means absolutely nothing. what counts is the quality of those punches. and if one looks at their records, mayweather jr. is the undefeated fighter with the superior boxing skills, who has never been stopped and/or kayoed by mediocre fighters.

[El Kabong]

I think what makes Floyd so tough for someone like Manny is that Floyd has the ability to pick off a punch and counter with power and IMMEDIATELY move out of the danger zone.

To beat Floyd, Pacquiao will have to avoid flush counters AND avoid the clinch if he ends up hurting Floyd.

[DaxxKahn]

just because pacquiao throws over 90 punches per round and floyd jr. averages 37 means absolutely nothing. what counts is the quality of those punches. and if one looks at their records, mayweather jr. is the undefeated fighter with the superior boxing skills, who has never been stopped and/or kayoed by mediocre fighters.

Manny was 18 and 110lbs his first KO loss by KO was to Singsurat who at the time was no ordinary mediocre fighter

[AdamGB]

We've seen Manny throw lots of fast combos, faster than we've seen from Floyd but that's simply down to styles, Floyd doesn't use them. The only thing we can truly compare is single punches and Floyd is much quicker than those.

Floyd doesn't dig his toes in and throw fast flurries because he likes to keep guys turning so that the can't get set and they can't counter him effectively.

Even if Manny's combos are quicker - it's not likely to count for anything, like I said Floyd doesn't throw them because it would mean having to set up shop and stick with it, he likes to move... the likelihood in my mind is that either Manny try to throw a quick combo and BANG countered whilst Mayweather moves off him and changes the angle or Floyd moves off him and leaves him with nothing but air to hit and at a bad angle to defend himself.

Even the fasted fighters cannot throw a fast sustained combo with anything on it all (ie: meaningless) without being relatively set, the ring movement available to you is going to be limited during the flurry.

It's much easier to throw fast combos against a slow clottey who offers at times almost literally no movement and very few counters, a drained Hoya and Ricky Hatton following a 'chin up. guard down, move straight forwards' gameplan but anybody who thinks Floyd is going to give the type of movement that would allow Manny to do this has never watched a Mayweather fight.

I never got those whole 'odd angles' thing with Manny either? He definitely throws from a lot of different angles, a lot more than most fighters but it's all pretty orthodox, he just has a fairly good variety.

When I think odd angles I think Naz and to an extent SMW-Earlier Light heavy Roy Jones Junior... bot Pacman.

Also Daxx you make some good points (Floyd needs to be criticized and is a bit of a cunt! You can't not respect his game though.) but you're really on the war path with him at the moment aren't you!

[DaxxKahn]

no doubt that mayweather jr. has faster hands than pacquiao. not only that, he's got better ring intelligence, reflexes and defense. pacquiao's boxing ability has improved but he still gets tagged way too many times to be anywhere as intelligent as mayweather jr..

I agree with the over all speed part because Floyd has better over all movement and in ring control but IMO just going on hand speed Manny is faster...

Opinions are opionions and like fan johnny says there is only one way to prove it

[UKPH]

Floyd is fast in pot shot jab and its really accurate.

Manny is really fast in flurry / combination.

[OumaFan]

Floyd is faster in single shots. Manny's faster in combos. At least that's how it looks when I watch them fight in slow motion.

[Hunter]

In my opinion Floyd is faster.

I am no floyd fan either, I like Manny better as a fighter because he is willing to fight anyone, has a more exciting style and isnt afraid to lose. I think Floyd should have fought Hatton at 140 when Floyd was moving up, Cotto and Margs when they were both at the top of their game. Hopefully this proves I am no Floyd hugger.

BUT I think Manny leaves himself open and is troubled by a fast slick counter puncher ala JMM. And there is no one slicker and faster than the Money Man. Also Floyd is careful and patient.

As the old saying goes styles make fights and Manny is made for Floyd's style. I will be hoping Manny pulls out the win but see a pretty one sided beatdown by Floyd.

[Nameless]

Floyd is faster in single shots. Manny's faster in combos. At least that's how it looks when I watch them fight in slow motion.

Actually, I would tend to agree with that affirmation. NOw as to who's better... let's pit them and see