Where is this secret footage that shows Floyd being faster then Manny?

[Majesty]

We've seen Manny throw lots of fast combos, faster than we've seen from Floyd but that's simply down to styles, Floyd doesn't use them. The only thing we can truly compare is single punches and Floyd is much quicker than those.

Floyd doesn't dig his toes in and throw fast flurries because he likes to keep guys turning so that the can't get set and they can't counter him effectively.

Even if Manny's combos are quicker - it's not likely to count for anything, like I said Floyd doesn't throw them because it would mean having to set up shop and stick with it, he likes to move... the likelihood in my mind is that either Manny try to throw a quick combo and BANG countered whilst Mayweather moves off him and changes the angle or Floyd moves off him and leaves him with nothing but air to hit and at a bad angle to defend himself.

Even the fasted fighters cannot throw a fast sustained combo with anything on it all (ie: meaningless) without being relatively set, the ring movement available to you is going to be limited during the flurry.

It's much easier to throw fast combos against a slow clottey who offers at times almost literally no movement and very few counters, a drained Hoya and Ricky Hatton following a 'chin up. guard down, move straight forwards' gameplan but anybody who thinks Floyd is going to give the type of movement that would allow Manny to do this has never watched a Mayweather fight.

I never got those whole 'odd angles' thing with Manny either? He definitely throws from a lot of different angles, a lot more than most fighters but it's all pretty orthodox, he just has a fairly good variety.

When I think odd angles I think Naz and to an extent SMW-Earlier Light heavy Roy Jones Junior... bot Pacman.

Also Daxx you make some good points (Floyd needs to be criticized and is a bit of a cunt! You can't not respect his game though.) but you're really on the war path with him at the moment aren't you!

What utter nonsense! to the point of just being facetious.

Pacquiao career is defined his by relentless combination punches that have decapitated hall of fame boxer's defenses. The majority of his knock downs and knock outs have come as a direct result of his combination punches. You only need to review the videos.

Because Barerra, Morales Hatton and Cotto have the same defenses as Floyd and PBF will stand still and let Pacquiao throw while not moving at all right?

[C-Lo]

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