What kind of negotiations exactly were these?

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Man, that's it. Floyd is a CERTIFIED COWARD!

Tell me, honestly. Would pacroid do a fight without freddie roach in his corner?

Shall I certify you and idiot now or later?

Floyd is the best because he doesn't cut corners. He only goes into the ring knowing he's done everything right. He want's no distractions. He ain't going to do anything until the uncle roger situation is sorted.

Everyone is an idiot to you because they have a different opp ones that usually make sense......A fighter may not want to go into a fight without their longtime trainer but if need be it must be......DEAL WITH IT THATS WHAT THE ELITE DOES....What if Freddie retired tomorrow do you believe Manny would?............

C'mon man you talk out of your ass once again

Would Manny fight Mayweather right away if Roach retired? We don't know, and I am not saying that is the reason, but I honestly think Mayweather has Manny negotiationwise where he wants him. I think Floyd realizes that Manny's other options are pretty thin, and that Arum isn't willing to fight anyone else besides him who isn't sponsored by Toprank. Arum seems to want everything to be promoted inhouse exclusively.

I am not saying its not Mayweather's fault, I am just saying these hardly seemed like legit negotiations if both sides weren't even talking to eachother directly. Arum also sounded really vague about a lot of points, but I am also wondering if they will sign next week and this is all a publicity stunt to catch everyone's attention.

This is true we don't know but more then likely he won't retire because Freddie did...Same as lets say Wladamir Klitschko if Manny Steward retired tomorrow would Wlad? Probably not.....

That guy Hornfinger is just a windup artist who calls everyone else's opinion stupid but his with no real debate....At least 1 time every other thread

These negotiations were just disgraceful on both sides and it is more or less ego by both men almost as if who ever coincides to the others demands basically is admitting the other guy is the bigger draw and better fighter,,,,I mean really what else could it be but outright un needed ego?.....I think after all these months of nonsense it may hurt the fight and sport more then anything rather build up interest....People tire of these crazy drawn out negotiations and in todays economy are outright disgusted with the fact two me turn down the opp to make 30 mill each or more in the long run but refuse due to demands....People begin to say I guess you don't need my PPV buy if you have so much already 30 mil is not needed.......Reasions why MMA is blowing boxing away with PPV sales

I am not saying Pacquiao would retire if Roach retired, but would he take such a big fight with someone else in his corner right away? Would he feel confident enough in that trainer? Either than that I agree with everything you are saying, but at least this time around Mayweather and Pacquiao haven't been talking. Arum seems to be as much a problem as a solution to this whole thing. Pacquiao would likely do the Wladimir Klitschko thing and take a cut to face Floyd, but Arum would never allow that. I honestly believe Pacquiao besides the 14 day window would do anything to get Floyd in the ring, and I think Floyd unfortunately knows that, and as with all his negotiations he will exploit this fact, and make people hate him as much as possible to make this fight even bigger.

As for the people who said Pacquiao has ducked people, or Floyd has. There is no time in their career where either guy has legitimately ducked an opponent, they have both proved that they are willing to face anyone under the right circumstances, and Pacquiao has foughten more elite opposition than arguably anyone I can think of in modern boxing. The list of future hall of famers that have fallen to him only continues to grow.