How Far Away Is Froch From Being a Pound 4 Pounder?

[JonnyFolds]

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Then i look at Sergio Martinez who is number 7, and he's only really gone 1-1-1 against Williams, Pavlik and CIntron. IS that any better than Froch going 3-1 against Taylor, Pascal, Dirrell and Kessler (two of those in his opponents backyard)? I mean, even Williams has question marks hanging over him...

So that begs the question, how do people on here form their p4p lists? What criteria do you all use? Do you all list a few bankers (Mayweather, Pacquiao, JMM, Mosley etc) and then add a few of the champions from the lower weights, after checking them out on Boxrec - of course pretending you've watched them fight more than twice?

I'm genuinley interested. For me, the p4p top ten is full with dark clouds and question marks. It needs shaking up. I can't help but feel a few fighters are holding down spots based on their past reputations, and maybe because there are no obvious front runners to take over the mantle.

When all that is said and done, if he beats Abraham, for me Froch is pushing 10th. He has to be...

For sure the p4p top ten at the moment looks pretty weak on a whole if you lookat past lists, but Froch got beat by Kessler who is nowhere near top 10 right now and the Dirrell win was a dodgy one in most peoples eyes.

The weird thing is, my gut instinct was Dirrell beat Froch, albeit barely. I actually had Froch beating Kessler by 1 round iirc.

His win over Pascal does look very good after what happened this weekend. Imo anyway. I just find it odd that Martinez makes a lot of people's list despite only winning 1 of 3 against Pavlik, Williams and Cintron. Froch goes 3-1 against Taylor, Dirrell, Pascal and Kessler and he isn't even on anyone's radar, even if he managed to beat Abraham, it seems only me and you would have him remotely close to cracking the top ten.

Aside from the Williams/Martinez fight which was actually close... I still had Martinez winning all three of those matches against the absolute best opposition he could seek out for his weight class. The guy fought for peanuts in each fight, won and nobody wants to fight him now. I wonder who you are thinking would beat this guy tomorrow in a fight? It's not like he got luck or anything. The man is all talent.

Now use that same mindset, and slate a bunch of guys against Froch in his weight own weight class. You give credit to Froch for KOing Jermain Taylor in the 12th frame. But you take credit away from Marquez for being in close matches with Casa & Juan Diaz and finishing them off. I feel it's a little bit of a double standard. Marquez is fighting his ass off against HOFers up and down the scales, Froch is struggling to be ranked top 5 in his division. There is just no comparison.

My boy, Martinez is waiting to bust up the next chump you put in front of him. If he fights Froch; I got Sig bets with anyone!!!

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