Haye Statement - What could it mean?

[ono]

That is a little different Lyle Hatton has a huge fanbase from more or less day one, Haye's fans have only just come out to play since they have been led to believe he is the new Lennox Lewis by him the media and his team.

I mean only 18 months ago he only had 8000 in the O2 Arena ( half empty ) v Monte Barrett that was after an offer of by one get one free ticket was offered. If Haye gets beat I don't see him having the following of a Hatton.

Well I understand that, but if the guy fought both Klitschko's (win or lose both brothers want to fight him) he would make more money than let's say if Audley sparks him.

The flipside is Haye knocks out Audley makes £15m, and then makes another £10m or so fighting a mandatory, before fighting either Klitschko. I know which one i'd go for if i was Haye.

£15m for Audley? Dream on Your theory does make sense though.

Lets say Haye can get £5million for being a 70/30 underdog against a Klit or £2.5million for being a 90/10 favourite against Audley. He loses to a Klit and he's back at the bottom of the pile. A spectacular KO over Audley increases his value for future fights.

What do you choose?

Yeah maybe £15m is a bit excessive. I forgot Sky will take a percentage of the PPV. I reckon it wouldn't be off £5m.

Fantana broke it down quite well in a different thread.

It's a no brainer for Haye imo.

[Mark TKO]

Exactly !

Just so long as he gets a move on doing it and don't sit on his arse for months on end in between fights

[El Kabong]

First off I think he'll get a figure significantly north of 5 mil. Second he could have had (win or lose) not 1 but multiple matches vs either brother.....so of course I think he's a damn fool to waste everyone's time fighting Audley.

[Fenster]

First off I think he'll get a figure significantly north of 5 mil. Second he could have had (win or lose) not 1 but multiple matches vs either brother.....so of course I think he's a damn fool to waste everyone's time fighting Audley.

Not if he loses he doesn't.

What if he had the choice between £5million for fighting a Klit and £5million for fighting Audley?

What should he choose? Bearing in mind he's a huge favourite in one fight and a big underdog in the other?

[El Kabong]

Not if he loses he doesn't.

What if he had the choice between £5million for fighting a Klit and £5million for fighting Audley?

What should he choose? Bearing in mind he's a huge favourite in one fight and a big underdog in the other?

Who cares if he's the favorite? Let's assume Chicken Little fought and lost to Wlad, say he earned about 7-6 mil for that fight....which opponent would he make more money off of Vitali (who may give him a 80-20 split) or Harrison who may then want something closer to 70-30 or even 60-40 seeing how Chicken Little was coming off a loss. Sure he may HAVE to fight in Germany, but odds are he'd still make more money that way because Vitali is obviously a bigger draw than Harrison. My main argument is 20% of 60,000 tickets is greater than 70% or 80% of 20,000 tickets.

[boxingbantz]

My main argument is 20% of 60,000 tickets is greater than 70% or 80% of 20,000 tickets.

I agree with you about David Haye a lot but I have to correct you here. Let's assume the tickets are £10 each for arguments sake:

20% of 60,000 = £120,000

80% of 20,000 = £160,000.

So, you're main argument, is wrong.

[El Kabong]

You assume that tickets for a Vitali match and tickets for a Harrison match go for the same price.

[boxingbantz]

You assume that tickets for a Vitali match and tickets for a Harrison match go for the same price.

You need to include some terms and conditions in your next argument to avoid further confusion.

Many thanks.

[Fenster]

Not if he loses he doesn't.

What if he had the choice between £5million for fighting a Klit and £5million for fighting Audley?

What should he choose? Bearing in mind he's a huge favourite in one fight and a big underdog in the other?

Who cares if he's the favorite? Let's assume Chicken Little fought and lost to Wlad, say he earned about 7-6 mil for that fight....which opponent would he make more money off of Vitali (who may give him a 80-20 split) or Harrison who may then want something closer to 70-30 or even 60-40 seeing how Chicken Little was coming off a loss. Sure he may HAVE to fight in Germany, but odds are he'd still make more money that way because Vitali is obviously a bigger draw than Harrison. My main argument is 20% of 60,000 tickets is greater than 70% or 80% of 20,000 tickets.

Why would Vitali want to fight Haye after china-chin has beaten him? Haye's stock drops massively the second he loses. The Klits wanted the rematch clauses just in case Haye sparks china-chin.

And the Audley fight would be worth absolute peanuts if Haye was coming off a loss. There'd be no PPV. In fact there'd be no fight because Audley will have gone another route.

What do you mean - "who cares if he's the favourite?" Only a fucking mental patient would choose a tougher fight for the same/less money. Fact.

[El Kabong]

#1 He's pissed off the brothers enough to make a match with the brother that didn't get to kick his ass.

#2 A fight vs either Klitschko is great risk and great reward if he's able to win....a fight vs Audley is just a great risk, if he doesn't dazzle vs Audley he could seriously hurt his image, I mean anything less than an early to mid rounds BRUTAL stoppage is going to disappoint and fail to hype a Klitschko fight....look at what decisioning Michael Grant will do to Adamek.

[Hornfinger]

My main argument is 20% of 60,000 tickets is greater than 70% or 80% of 20,000 tickets.

I agree with you about David Haye a lot but I have to correct you here. Let's assume the tickets are £10 each for arguments sake:

20% of 60,000 = £120,000

80% of 20,000 = £160,000.

So, you're main argument, is wrong.

further proof that thinking and americans don't mix

[El Kabong]

Then great Hornfinger now we can just sit back and await the Chicken Little-Audley Harrison trilogy seeing how it'll earn Chicken Little more money than fights vs the Klitschko's

[Hornfinger]

Then great Hornfinger now we can just sit back and await the Chicken Little-Audley Harrison trilogy seeing how it'll earn Chicken Little more money than fights vs the Klitschko's

Stop whinging.

The klits should offer him some decent money then

[Hornfinger]

weres your proof that that was the contract? I want to see it. not a report I want to know where you can actually view that.

...well let me reach in my bag of unsigned boxing contracts

Where's the Harrison fight contract? Does Chicken Little not have rematch clauses? Is he giving Audley his fair amount of cash, what with being a pathetic local fighter and accepting the fight and following through and all? And I don't want "reports" I want a scanned and notarized copy of it.

....nobody has those details bar the managers (perhaps the fighters), but I am more inclined to believe the people who actively tried to make the match happen rather than those who have called for the match but have never followed through with the actual match.

I know this post will only draw your contempt but I can't argue with someone as illogical as yourself...your fighter signed on the dotted line to fight Wladimir and then chickened out that is a FACT nobody, not even someone as delusional as yourself can deny it

So you have nothing but hear say that you passing off as fact.

good plan, keep up the good work.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Then great Hornfinger now we can just sit back and await the Chicken Little-Audley Harrison trilogy seeing how it'll earn Chicken Little more money than fights vs the Klitschko's

Stop whinging.

The klits should offer him some decent money then

a 50/50 split against the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the world is more than a decent offer for Haye, difference is David Haye's a bitch