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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton copies Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
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    By going to clubs, speaking to young peole etc, you become a role model by default, but he is a parent, ads by yanks who have been paid by the likes of nike etc provide no excuses. All those in the public eye have a social responsibilty and it becomes more of a responsibility when a charasmatic young man like Ricky does it.

    I am gutted by what Ricky has done, or been caught doing, let down greatly.

    Maybe he'll have the balls to come out and a genuine apology
    The point of the ad is true. It's simplistic but straightforward in nature with its message. Parents, guardians, the people that are directly involved in the young person's life are role models, not some athlete or public figure.

    Only an idiot would allow their child to look at a Wayne Rooney, Tiger Woods, Paris Hilton, Angelina Jolie as role models. It's the parents or guardians of that child that is a role model.


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    By going to clubs, speaking to young peole etc, you become a role model by default, but he is a parent, ads by yanks who have been paid by the likes of nike etc provide no excuses. All those in the public eye have a social responsibilty and it becomes more of a responsibility when a charasmatic young man like Ricky does it.

    I am gutted by what Ricky has done, or been caught doing, let down greatly.

    Maybe he'll have the balls to come out and a genuine apology
    Half the adult male population of Britain have taken cocaine get a grip. If you are really concerned it should be for his health and well being. HE didn't reveal this, some dog bitch 'friend' of his secretly filmed him behind closed doors and then sold him out to a national newspaper.

    If it was suddenly exposed that all but one of the entire England football team had been with a prostitute and taken cocaine at least once in their career, my only suprise would be the one who had managed to avoid those temptations!

    By definition sportspeople are passionate, aggressive, emotionally driven people who crave a rush and adrenaline, and are very competitive. How else could they rise to the top? Of course they do things like cocaine, fuck loads of women and gamble etc when they have the opportunities.

    Anyone who thought Ricky Hatton had never taken cocaine would be an idiot in my opinion.

    Every politician will be corrupt in some way, just as will be every top businessman. Every young male sportsman will be either taking drugs, sleeping with people he shouldn't be, getting violent and or gambling, committing fraud etc.

    The ones who don't are the exceptions.

    And guess what, it's the same for all of us. If our lives were suddenly exposed and all our secret habits and indescretions revealed, how many would be entirely scandal free? I would imagine not many, and I'd also say if there was such a person, he'd also have led the dullest life.
    100% right.

    The amount of moral grandstanding in this thread is ridiculous. Hatton is human just like everybody else and just because he's in the public eye does not mean that he deserves to be held to some imposed moral standard by a bunch of people who have themselves done things that are much worse than snorting a few lines. Jesus.
    I don't think it is so much a load of 'moral grandstanding', a lot of us are fans of Ricky Hatton and have supported him a lot over the years. The rumours of the heavy drinking and overeating have been rife for years and now with the posibility that he might have been abusing his body with drugs too. It's not good or healthy for anyone to be indulging in those things on a large scale basis.

    People as a whole want what is best for Hatton. They care when they see one of their heroes struggling and dealing with his problems by resorting to booze and drugs. It's not so much taking a moral position, but saying that if things are not right in the world of Hatton, then this is probably not the most feasible way of trying to work it out. It will only lead to permanent bodily and mental damage.

    For sure Hatton is human, so that makes it alright for us all to drink a dozen pints a day, snort rather large amounts of coke and to do that on a very regular basis (that is certainly what the rumours are suggesting)? It's hardly the recipe for a healthy satisfied life is it now? People care and just want to see a sick man get better.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton copies Calzaghe

    Ricky has eaten, slept and breathed professional boxing for the last 20 yrs he is only doing what you i and nearly everone has been doing for the last 20 yrs while he has dedicated his youth to his sport, lets not be to hypocritical and judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by hursty View Post
    Ricky has eaten, slept and breathed professional boxing for the last 20 yrs he is only doing what you i and nearly everone has been doing for the last 20 yrs while he has dedicated his youth to his sport, lets not be to hypocritical and judge
    yep

    if ricky wants to get loaded, let im

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    Quote Originally Posted by hursty View Post
    Ricky has eaten, slept and breathed professional boxing for the last 20 yrs he is only doing what you i and nearly everone has been doing for the last 20 yrs while he has dedicated his youth to his sport, lets not be to hypocritical and judge

    This ain't just a recent thing mate.

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    In regard to it 'Not being a recent thing' this is well known but not reported, As it should be! its personal and thats where it should have stayed if not for a money grabbing so called 'Friend'

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    Ricky to his credit has worked wonders for boxing and as a man, "Once met he is never forgotten".

    He ring skills and personnal charm stop him from being a boxer, a celeb, but he enters our home (although via the TV and via our personnal invitation as viewers) almost makes him part of the family, especially if you're a local such as he.

    Whilst he is not the first to be betrayed be friend, who culd've filmed him, shown it to him in private and said how easily it could've ended up with the press and hope it had the desired effect, they didn't.

    Under no circumstances can we condone illegal drug use by anyone, no matter who they are.

    One common theme running through this thread is "People Care" and they care about Ricky and his health, future etc, but we are allowed to be upset as you would do with anyone you respect.

    Can Ricky come back from, I would not only say YES, but shout YES. He has the physical and mental stamina, but more importantly he has the support structure from family, friends then many many fans.

    But we still live in a society where we can express our opinion, even if it it is not one that satifies everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukchataway View Post
    Ricky to his credit has worked wonders for boxing and as a man, "Once met he is never forgotten".

    He ring skills and personnal charm stop him from being a boxer, a celeb, but he enters our home (although via the TV and via our personnal invitation as viewers) almost makes him part of the family, especially if you're a local such as he.

    Whilst he is not the first to be betrayed be friend, who culd've filmed him, shown it to him in private and said how easily it could've ended up with the press and hope it had the desired effect, they didn't.

    Under no circumstances can we condone illegal drug use by anyone, no matter who they are.

    One common theme running through this thread is "People Care" and they care about Ricky and his health, future etc, but we are allowed to be upset as you would do with anyone you respect.

    Can Ricky come back from, I would not only say YES, but shout YES. He has the physical and mental stamina, but more importantly he has the support structure from family, friends then many many fans.

    But we still live in a society where we can express our opinion, even if it it is not one that satifies everyone.
    I agree with a lot of that.

    Many of us on here have probably used illegal drugs, but you would never imagine anyone to regard that as a positive thing. Just as the drunk laid out cold in the street is regarded as a loser, so too is the sad, old coke head up every night snorting to his hearts content. It doesn't and can't lead to anything praiseworthy. You would rather your best friend was a normal dependable guy rather than a strung out boozer/druggy. With a drug like coke it does tend to lead to extremes too. If you have enough money to buy all the coke you can, then you will. To try and say "well you've all done it, so don't be a hypocrite" is besides the point. Most people give up that kind of lifestyle; especially when reality starts to hit them in the face. In this instance Hatton got a cold hard slap and the reality was right in front of us all.

    Apparently he is off to rehab now and I hope it isn't just lipservice. Looking at the way he was snorting that stuff, he is no novice. This is likely a man who has been doing this a fair while now. I wish him well in cleaning himself up, but wish he would sort the diet and booze out along with it too. Hatton is done as a boxer, but if he can just sort himself out he can still be a force for good in the world of boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hursty View Post
    In regard to it 'Not being a recent thing' this is well known but not reported, As it should be! its personal and thats where it should have stayed if not for a money grabbing so called 'Friend'
    No not at all If Hatton has a major problem with this this is the best thing for him, he needs a reality check, if he is bang on this shit every night that is not normal thing to do and will lead down a one lonely path.

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    BBC Sport - Ricky Hatton enters rehabilitation after drug claims

    The BBC are now reporting his entering Rehab and the Board want to speak with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukchataway View Post
    BBC Sport - Ricky Hatton enters rehabilitation after drug claims

    The BBC are now reporting his entering Rehab and the Board want to speak with him.
    Wonder if that is a " rep " rehab stint or he really is serious about this I hope he sorts himself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Had he done it off the chicks bottom he'd be cool in many peoples books. LOL
    Not that chick though.
    hahhahaha
    LMAO no kidding, what a dog. Anyways, no one should want anyone to do coke. Unless I'm in the same car as Paris Hilton or maybe that Emma Bowe lady, in which case I would probably need it. We know he did it one time, who knows how much he does it. Of course you would prefer him to not do it at all but hey as a celebrity they get those things thrown at them.

    Floyd is on coke too though, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukchataway View Post
    Had he done it off the chicks bottom he'd be cool in many peoples books. LOL
    Not that chick though.
    hahhahaha
    LMAO no kidding, what a dog. Anyways, no one should want anyone to do coke. Unless I'm in the same car as Paris Hilton or maybe that Emma Bowe lady, in which case I would probably need it. We know he did it one time, who knows how much he does it. Of course you would prefer him to not do it at all but hey as a celebrity they get those things thrown at them.

    Floyd is on coke too though, no doubt.
    Didn't I see him drinking from a gallon jug of Milk in his rant vid? I think he's probably disciplined enough not to use the rec drugs because so many of his Family was into that crap as an example of what not to do. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ukchataway View Post
    By going to clubs, speaking to young peole etc, you become a role model by default, but he is a parent, ads by yanks who have been paid by the likes of nike etc provide no excuses. All those in the public eye have a social responsibilty and it becomes more of a responsibility when a charasmatic young man like Ricky does it.

    I am gutted by what Ricky has done, or been caught doing, let down greatly.

    Maybe he'll have the balls to come out and a genuine apology
    The point of the ad is true. It's simplistic but straightforward in nature with its message. Parents, guardians, the people that are directly involved in the young person's life are role models, not some athlete or public figure.

    Only an idiot would allow their child to look at a Wayne Rooney, Tiger Woods, Paris Hilton, Angelina Jolie as role models. It's the parents or guardians of that child that is a role model.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ukchataway View Post
    By going to clubs, speaking to young peole etc, you become a role model by default, but he is a parent, ads by yanks who have been paid by the likes of nike etc provide no excuses. All those in the public eye have a social responsibilty and it becomes more of a responsibility when a charasmatic young man like Ricky does it.

    I am gutted by what Ricky has done, or been caught doing, let down greatly.

    Maybe he'll have the balls to come out and a genuine apology
    Half the adult male population of Britain have taken cocaine get a grip. If you are really concerned it should be for his health and well being. HE didn't reveal this, some dog bitch 'friend' of his secretly filmed him behind closed doors and then sold him out to a national newspaper.

    If it was suddenly exposed that all but one of the entire England football team had been with a prostitute and taken cocaine at least once in their career, my only suprise would be the one who had managed to avoid those temptations!

    By definition sportspeople are passionate, aggressive, emotionally driven people who crave a rush and adrenaline, and are very competitive. How else could they rise to the top? Of course they do things like cocaine, fuck loads of women and gamble etc when they have the opportunities.

    Anyone who thought Ricky Hatton had never taken cocaine would be an idiot in my opinion.

    Every politician will be corrupt in some way, just as will be every top businessman. Every young male sportsman will be either taking drugs, sleeping with people he shouldn't be, getting violent and or gambling, committing fraud etc.

    The ones who don't are the exceptions.

    And guess what, it's the same for all of us. If our lives were suddenly exposed and all our secret habits and indescretions revealed, how many would be entirely scandal free? I would imagine not many, and I'd also say if there was such a person, he'd also have led the dullest life.
    100% right.

    The amount of moral grandstanding in this thread is ridiculous. Hatton is human just like everybody else and just because he's in the public eye does not mean that he deserves to be held to some imposed moral standard by a bunch of people who have themselves done things that are much worse than snorting a few lines. Jesus.
    I don't think it is so much a load of 'moral grandstanding', a lot of us are fans of Ricky Hatton and have supported him a lot over the years. The rumours of the heavy drinking and overeating have been rife for years and now with the posibility that he might have been abusing his body with drugs too. It's not good or healthy for anyone to be indulging in those things on a large scale basis.

    People as a whole want what is best for Hatton. They care when they see one of their heroes struggling and dealing with his problems by resorting to booze and drugs. It's not so much taking a moral position, but saying that if things are not right in the world of Hatton, then this is probably not the most feasible way of trying to work it out. It will only lead to permanent bodily and mental damage.

    For sure Hatton is human, so that makes it alright for us all to drink a dozen pints a day, snort rather large amounts of coke and to do that on a very regular basis (that is certainly what the rumours are suggesting)? It's hardly the recipe for a healthy satisfied life is it now? People care and just want to see a sick man get better.
    That's fair. Obviously Hatton isn't living his life in the most healthy way and it is clear that it is not acceptable to him anymore as evidenced by the fact that he's now checked himself into rehab (which obviously shows that this was more than just a casual thing, which would have made it much less significant in my eyes). However, I don't think the fact the he is a drug user or has a drunk/drinking problem is a reason to deride him as a bad person or weak etc. He's just a human who has problems, just like everyone else.

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    OK let me get this straight...Ricky participated in a sport where you get smacked in the head (since he was a child) and nobody worried until Pacquiao cleaned his clock. Ricky yo-yo'd his weight up and down, fattening up between fights and nobody worried, everyone laughed about it. Ricky drank down at the pub and nobody worried everyone thought he was just one of the lads having a few pints etc....but now doing blow has everyone in a tizzy. That stuff can't be any worse than anything else he's done to himself.

    I don't agree with doing it, but Ricky is a grown ass man, he can make his own decisions. If he's forced into rehab without his heart being in it I can bet you he'll come out and get in worse trouble, he'll hit it harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    OK let me get this straight...Ricky participated in a sport where you get smacked in the head (since he was a child) and nobody worried until Pacquiao cleaned his clock. Ricky yo-yo'd his weight up and down, fattening up between fights and nobody worried, everyone laughed about it. Ricky drank down at the pub and nobody worried everyone thought he was just one of the lads having a few pints etc....but now doing blow has everyone in a tizzy. That stuff can't be any worse than anything else he's done to himself.

    I don't agree with doing it, but Ricky is a grown ass man, he can make his own decisions. If he's forced into rehab without his heart being in it I can bet you he'll come out and get in worse trouble, he'll hit it harder.
    I suppose that's a good point. He's been in touch with Max Clifford who's no doubt told him to go public with the rehab stuff. If he's doing to win brownie points with the media, and to rebuild relations with some of his fanbase, it's a bad idea.. If he's doing to for genuine reasons then it's a great idea. I Find it all a little coincidental though, considering i've heard from more than a few people (Skel is one of them) that he's been at it for a few years, Frank Warren even alluded to it in his column today.
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