Khan - Maidana in jeopardy already...

[CFH]

Fight confirmed. Definatley happening!

At least this will solve most the Khan arguments, chin, genuine contender at his weight.

It's gonna be a great fight and for once a fight all fans have been calling for

I don't know if it will answer the questions surrounding his chin, I wouldn't be all that surprised if Maidana was unable to connect cleanly at all. He's not exactly known for his accuracy.

[generalbulldog]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

[ono]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

You seem to have changed your mind a tiny little bit on Khan. Your posts have been more balanced. I agree with everything you've said here. His chin will always be the problem. If he were to beat Maidana, the issue would still be there. IT would just mean he was 1-1 against 'punchers'.

[ICB]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

Im sorry but i can't agree at all, i think i've been very fair regarding Amir Khan. And he is a good fighter, but now your comparing him to Terry Norris ?

Terry Norris is a great fighter, there's a big difference between good and great. When he got KO'ed by a big puncher like Julian Jackson. He got right back in there with another huge puncher in John Mugabi and destroyed him.

Terry Norris is considered one of the best Jr Middleweight's of all time, aswell as one of the most skillful fighters of the modern era.

He has wins over such fighters like.

Steve Little
John Mugabi
Sugar Ray Leonard
Donald Curry
Meldrick Taylor
Simon Brown
Buster Drayton

ETC.

But i had to check that comment again, when you said if Amir Khan had a solid chin. He could have a similar career to ODLH, SRL ? have i read that right ? are you kidding me ?

[generalbulldog]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

Im sorry but i can't agree at all, i think i've been very fair regarding Amir Khan. And he is a good fighter, but now your comparing him to Terry Norris ?

Terry Norris is a great fighter, there's a big difference between good and great. When he got KO'ed by a big puncher like Julian Jackson. He got right back in there with another huge puncher in John Mugabi and destroyed him.

Terry Norris is considered one of the best Jr Middleweight's of all time, aswell as one of the most skillful fighters of the modern era.

He has wins over such fighters like.

Steve Little
John Mugabi
Sugar Ray Leonard
Donald Curry
Meldrick Taylor
Simon Brown
Buster Drayton

ETC.

But i had to check that comment again, when you said if Amir Khan had a solid chin. He could have a similar career to ODLH, SRL ? have i read that right ? are you kidding me ?

Yes, I am correct in saying that Khan's career trajectory is that of a Terry Norris career. Again the keyword here is career. I am not comparing their fight styles. Meaning that Khan won't be a massive superstar in the sport but will just be a star like Norris in the boxing game with a few good names on the resume only because of the chin issues that also kept Norris from being massive. And also guys like Leonard, Taylor, and Mugabi on Norris resume were either shot, past their prime, or seriously on the decline.

And Yes career wise if he had Pacquiao's iron chin, he would have been potentially the UK's De La Hoya or Leonard. Khan naturally possess elite speed, good power, good mobility, good boxing ability, the height and frame at 5'10" just like ODL and SRL to move up multiple weight divisions, an exciting style, and lastly he also had a very good following after the Olympics just like those 2 and had the crossover mainstream ability, but the only thing Khan was missing was a iron chin. There was a reason why even SRL himself made the comparison, even other boxing pundits made that kind of analysis, of course this was before Khan got ko in 1 minute to a guy like Presscott.

[ICB]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

Im sorry but i can't agree at all, i think i've been very fair regarding Amir Khan. And he is a good fighter, but now your comparing him to Terry Norris ?

Terry Norris is a great fighter, there's a big difference between good and great. When he got KO'ed by a big puncher like Julian Jackson. He got right back in there with another huge puncher in John Mugabi and destroyed him.

Terry Norris is considered one of the best Jr Middleweight's of all time, aswell as one of the most skillful fighters of the modern era.

He has wins over such fighters like.

Steve Little
John Mugabi
Sugar Ray Leonard
Donald Curry
Meldrick Taylor
Simon Brown
Buster Drayton

ETC.

But i had to check that comment again, when you said if Amir Khan had a solid chin. He could have a similar career to ODLH, SRL ? have i read that right ? are you kidding me ?

Yes, I am correct in saying that Khan's career trajectory is that of a Terry Norris career. Again the keyword here is career. I am not comparing their fight styles. Meaning that Khan won't be a massive superstar in the sport but will just be a star like Norris in the boxing game with a few good names on the resume only because of the chin issues that also kept Norris from being massive. And also guys like Leonard, Taylor, and Mugabi on Norris resume were either shot, past their prime, or seriously on the decline.

And Yes career wise if he had Pacquiao's iron chin, he would have been potentially the UK's De La Hoya or Leonard. Khan naturally possess elite speed, good power, good mobility, good boxing ability, the height and frame at 5'10" just like ODL and SRL to move up multiple weight divisions, an exciting style, and lastly he also had a very good following after the Olympics just like those 2 and had the crossover mainstream ability, but the only thing Khan was missing was a iron chin. There was a reason why even SRL himself made the comparison, even other boxing pundits made that kind of analysis, of course this was before Khan got ko in 1 minute to a guy like Presscott.

Terry Norris was pretty massive, he was top 3 P4P at one point i believe. Its just fighters like Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, were a weightclass below him. And none of those fights could be made, and when Felix Trinidad come along. Terry Norris was pretty much finished as an elite fighter.

I don't think Amir Khan could beat John Mugabi, Donald Curry, Meldrick Taylor, Sugar Ray Leonard, Simon Brown, even if some of those fighters were past there prime.

Terry Norris's chin was for certain a weakness, but he could also at times take a good shot. Someone like Quincy Taylor who won't stand out for you, had a 75 percent KO record.

And was known to have a fair dig, and he hit Terry Norris clean on the chin. Many times and Terry Norris took the shots fine.

His loss to Simon Brown was him taking Simon Brown lightly, and i don't think 95 percent of any Jr Middleweight's in history, could of got up from that right hand Julian Jackson landed on Terry Norris's chin.

Just watch some of Terry Norris's best performances. Like against Brown 2, Leonard, he was a class above Amir Khan clearly.

I mean not long ago Amir Khan was getting shook up by domestic level fighters, i just think its way premature to start saying Amir Khan could ever be anywhere as good as those great fighters.

Even if he had a granite chin, he's no way in the league of a ODLH, SRL.

[Fenster]

Khan's career isn't over yet. He could eaisly end-up with Terry Norris type recognition.

Generalbulldog, for a Khan "hater" that's some lofty praise. I'm not sure he would be in Leonard or Oscar's leauge but one things for sure, if Khan had a solid chin he could easily be a top P4P star for years... unfortunately, as we all know, he doesn't have the chin.

[JazMerkin]

I'll be honest I think Maidana is straight fucking this up. He would be lucky to get 45% of the purse in Argentina let alone anywhere else. Say what you want about Khan, but outside of Floyd, Manny & the HWs who is a bigger draw than he is in boxing at the moment?

I can see this fight not coming off & to be fair I couldn't even blame Khan for leaving it if he don't get his guarantee

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

If he wants to be unrealistic with money, that to me shows he ain't serious about winning and that he just wants a pay out.

Khan should carry on fighting Superfeather weights. At least they know their role

[ono]

TBH, I think with Khan and his chin issues, his potential would be that of a Terry Norris type of career, if he had a Manny or Floyd chin, it would have been a Leonard or De La Hoya type of career.

It really doesn't matter at this point if he doesn't fight Maidana and goes for an Erik Morales instead, because everyone knows about the susceptibility of his chin already, but best believe sooner or later he will have to fight someone with good power that's in their prime, and he may not be a crude fighter that is woefully unpolish like Maidana.

Im sorry but i can't agree at all, i think i've been very fair regarding Amir Khan. And he is a good fighter, but now your comparing him to Terry Norris ?

Terry Norris is a great fighter, there's a big difference between good and great. When he got KO'ed by a big puncher like Julian Jackson. He got right back in there with another huge puncher in John Mugabi and destroyed him.

Terry Norris is considered one of the best Jr Middleweight's of all time, aswell as one of the most skillful fighters of the modern era.

He has wins over such fighters like.

Steve Little
John Mugabi
Sugar Ray Leonard
Donald Curry
Meldrick Taylor
Simon Brown
Buster Drayton

ETC.

But i had to check that comment again, when you said if Amir Khan had a solid chin. He could have a similar career to ODLH, SRL ? have i read that right ? are you kidding me ?

Yes, I am correct in saying that Khan's career trajectory is that of a Terry Norris career. Again the keyword here is career. I am not comparing their fight styles. Meaning that Khan won't be a massive superstar in the sport but will just be a star like Norris in the boxing game with a few good names on the resume only because of the chin issues that also kept Norris from being massive. And also guys like Leonard, Taylor, and Mugabi on Norris resume were either shot, past their prime, or seriously on the decline.

And Yes career wise if he had Pacquiao's iron chin, he would have been potentially the UK's De La Hoya or Leonard. Khan naturally possess elite speed, good power, good mobility, good boxing ability, the height and frame at 5'10" just like ODL and SRL to move up multiple weight divisions, an exciting style, and lastly he also had a very good following after the Olympics just like those 2 and had the crossover mainstream ability, but the only thing Khan was missing was a iron chin. There was a reason why even SRL himself made the comparison, even other boxing pundits made that kind of analysis, of course this was before Khan got ko in 1 minute to a guy like Presscott.

Terry Norris was pretty massive, he was top 3 P4P at one point i believe. Its just fighters like Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, were a weightclass below him. And none of those fights could be made, and when Felix Trinidad come along. Terry Norris was pretty much finished as an elite fighter.

I don't think Amir Khan could beat John Mugabi, Donald Curry, Meldrick Taylor, Sugar Ray Leonard, Simon Brown, even if some of those fighters were past there prime.

Terry Norris's chin was for certain a weakness, but he could also at times take a good shot. Someone like Quincy Taylor who won't stand out for you, had a 75 percent KO record.

And was known to have a fair dig, and he hit Terry Norris clean on the chin. Many times and Terry Norris took the shots fine.

His loss to Simon Brown was him taking Simon Brown lightly, and i don't think 95 percent of any Jr Middleweight's in history, could of got up from that right hand Julian Jackson landed on Terry Norris's chin.

Just watch some of Terry Norris's best performances. Like against Brown 2, Leonard, he was a class above Amir Khan clearly.

I mean not long ago Amir Khan was getting shook up by domestic level fighters, i just think its way premature to start saying Amir Khan could ever be anywhere as good as those great fighters.

Even if he had a granite chin, he's no way in the league of a ODLH, SRL.

He's probably not, but it's a bit early to tell really. At 23 Pacquiao didn't look like getting to where he's at now. I don't think you can really judge Khan's career until it's done, and even then he might not have the same level of competition that the likes of De La Hoya and SRL have had, mainly because that quality isn't around any more. Not at 140 anyway.

All you can really say about Khan is at 23 (I know GeneralBulldog will laugh)there isn't much better out there. He's with the right trainer. His chin will probably hold him back and while he may never reach the respective levels of Oscar and Sugar Ray, he could experience the same type of dominance, if his chin were to hold out....and that's a big if.

[amat]

I think people overlook the fact that Khan gets hit waaay to much. He's honestly a very good offensive fighter, definitely his best asset and he even boxes pretty well behind the jab but if you are going to box like that, you can't get hit that much. He gets hit a lot and it's been throughout his whole career that it's been that way. He just isn't that good defensively and I think his defense is a bigger flaw then his chin.People make him seem like Mayweather with a fragile chin, he gets hit a lot. That and the chin don't make a good combo, especially for someone who is at times reckless in his attack in the ring.

If he fights Bradley, it won't be 1 punch that ices him, he will get tagged cleanly and consistently and might not even go down. He'll be lauded for his toughness but he will have eaten to many shots. It won't be the chin, it'll be the defense that fails.

[Fenster]

I think people overlook the fact that Khan gets hit waaay to much. He's honestly a very good offensive fighter, definitely his best asset and he even boxes pretty well behind the jab but if you are going to box like that, you can't get hit that much. He gets hit a lot and it's been throughout his whole career that it's been that way. He just isn't that good defensively and I think his defense is a bigger flaw then his chin.People make him seem like Mayweather with a fragile chin, he gets hit a lot. That and the chin don't make a good combo, especially for someone who is at times reckless in his attack in the ring.

If he fights Bradley, it won't be 1 punch that ices him, he will get tagged cleanly and consistently and might not even go down. He'll be lauded for his toughness but he will have eaten to many shots. It won't be the chin, it'll be the defense that fails.

Have you seen him since the Prescott fight?

In his last four - Barrera, Kotelnik, Salita, Powderpuff - they've hardly landed a glove on him. Powderpuff might have caught him a few times but that's understandable considering he could take more chances.

[ono]

I agree with Fenbot. The thing is, Khan has been heavily scrutinised since he turned pro with every fight being billed as the main event, so everytime he's been hit, it's pretty much been highlighted.

Since he fought Prescott he hasn't really taken many. Kotelnik hardly landed a glove on him and we should all now know Kotelnik is a very capable fighter. Not elite, but very good, Salita never got anywhere near him, Barrera didn't really land (i know he had vision issues). Only Paulie really landed anything and even that was nothing major. Besides he was clearly less bothered about Paulie's power so took more risks.

Not saying his defence is great, because it isn't. Just think it's been quite good since he's been with Freddie.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

If you see how much Kotelnik was hitting Devon Alexander, you'll see that Khans defence can't be all that bad.

[amat]

That's a case of styles make fights though. Alexander couldn't play keep away all night behind the jab because that's not his style of fight. I think in hindsight, Kotelnik is his best performance but I still have trouble seeing him fight that way all the time because his instincts seem to tell him to do differently. I don't think he's going to control fights behind his jab especially if someone out there focuses on neutralizing that. The defense has improved simply because he has been smarter offensively. I just don't believe that will last.

Barrera fight shouldn't even count, he was outgunned but it's a myth that he hardly laid a glove on him. He landed solidly a few times before he was blinded. Salita obviously was just blown out and Malignaggi did land and he landed really early. You could say it was a matter of 'taking chances' because he knew Malignaggi was a powderpuff he got marked up regardless.

I'm sorry I'm not sold, those guys aren't the top in the division besides Kotelnik, who is more of a clever defensive type then a really good offensive fighter. Maidana will probably be able to be kept at bay with the jab but if we're going to compare him to Terry Norris (and say he could 'easily' achieve what he did) then lets actually see him tested! We know his flaws, lets see if he can work through them.

Barrera, Kotelnik, Salita and Malignaggi, NONE of those guys were going to KO Khan anyways. Let's see him tested before we go completely fucken overboard. Unless we want to say that Bradley could 'easily' become as great as Aaron Pryor or Andre Ward could 'easily' be as great as BHop.