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Re: Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!
Well it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.Originally Posted by skel1983
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At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the momentWell it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it., looking at it again maybe he will take it as he could loose and go back to 135 but maybe he will loose all his rankings at the same time.
It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.
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Only Mick Hennessey would be stupid enough to allow that to happen. So it depends on what happens with him.At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the momentWell it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.
It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.
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dont rule him out
it would be fantastic for him if it happened
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Yes I speak to John sometimes top lad, and like you say don't rule him out he might step upto the plate tougher the challenge the better the performance, just think though he can be outboxed and Ortiz could break him up. Hope not would love this fight I think it could be a war for as long as it lasts.
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murray could be bigger and stronger at light welterYes I speak to John sometimes top lad, and like you say don't rule him out he might step upto the plate tougher the challenge the better the performance, just think though he can be outboxed and Ortiz could break him up. Hope not would love this fight I think it could be a war for as long as it lasts.
i think if he can take his power early murray could wear him down
murray hasnt really been tested yet, and still has the stubborness of an unbeaten fighter
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I'd like to see Murray win a few more an step up at lightweight first, stepping up for your first fight against Victor Ortiz at LightWelter would be a stupid move just now IMO. Right now for me a fight against Juan Diaz or even Antonio DeMarco at lightweight would be great get noticed fights and could also be good fights for the fans too. Very winnable for Murray.
I hope Murray succeeds I really do..... If he had more power I'd be certain he could get to the top atleast once........
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Carnt remember who said it last night, that there was talk of Murray struggling with the weight if thats the case i think it would be worth the risk in stepping up to face Ortiz. It would be a tough fight but he would test the heart of Ortiz if he can get in close and make it a war.
Re: Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!
Well there's no real big fights for him at Lightweight that are realistic, guys like Soto, Marquez, Funeka, would do bad damage to John Murray.At 140 though? Do you think mate, I suppose financially it would be a good move as he is not making much fighting in greater manchester school gyms at the momentWell it is about time he stepped up, he's had almost 30 fights and he's 25. So if he can't beat Victor Ortiz now, he never will. John Murray is a very basic come forward fighter. But he may cause some suprises but i doubt it.
It will also depend on tomorrows fight if he is in a war which is not out of the question might be to soon for him but going by the odds Murray is 1/33 on looks like a easy job on paper.
Victor Ortiz is a big pay for him, a chance for him to get into the spotlight. And i don't care what the odds say mate, no way is John Murray that much of an underdog.
He's in with a shot in this fight, he could very well break Victor Ortiz's will. If he can close the distance, i mean the smart money says Victor Ortiz will be too classy and he will out maneuver the slower one dimensional John Murray.
But i give him more of a chance in the Victor Ortiz fight, than i would against the other 3 names i mentioned, thats for damn sure.
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too close to call
ortiz maybe just shading a hometown decision, but murray will be right in there and looking to dominate from the get go
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