donaire v. montiel possibly next

[Violent Demise]

kisser,

what? now montiel is ducking nonito "the minimumweight king" donaire? at least montiel fights guys bigger, and younger than him, unlike "the minimumweight king" who likes to pick on little guys. do me a favor kisser and do a little comparison between montiel's and donaire's record and see who has the better resume and the better competition. hell, montiel even went to z gorres' hometown and kicked his ass. had him doing a little chicken dance in front of his fans. if gorres had half a brain (no wait, he really does) he would have asked for an immediate rematch in the U.S. or in mexico but unfortunately, even with his hometown judges, z gorres wasn't able to steal the title from montiel.

whats bolded just goes to show how big of a piece of shit you are, i don't know how anyone could find what happened to a warrior like Gorres to be funny, and you wanna preach on about Donaire fighting smaller guys? what the hell was Cazarres doing for his entire career until now that he finally stepped it up, and ummm isn't your boyfriend Margacheato fighting a former strawweight at jr. middleweight?!? but yea when Pacquiao waxes that ass it'll be because Margacheato was weight drained again, he's been weight drained since they took the extra weight off of his wraps

if Donaire/Montiel happens i give props to both guys especially Donaire, for finally stepping it up in LEVEL of opposition, seeing how Montiel has been facing top guys a long time already

Correction. A juiced up, steroid out his mind former strawweight

proof noun \ˈprüf\

Definition of PROOF (Mirriam-Webster)

: the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact

: the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning


Now. Do you have any proof that Pacquiao ever used steroids?

"It's not about what you know, It's about what you can prove in the court of law".

- Quote from the movie Law Abiding Citizen.

It's almost sad how mindless some people really are. They actually have to be told by other people that some one is guilty before they accept it. They possess no common sense. If they did they would figure out the answer themselves. There are several reasons why it's obvious. One of the biggest ones is the money. Growing up 40 cents was like Big Foot to Pacquiao. He had heard about it. But never seen it. Yet people seriously want to believe the man left 40 million on the table based on the principle?

That doesn't cut it. 'Til you present an evidence, you're not gonna make any sense. That's the way how things work. Btw, incase you haven't heard. Pacquaio already agreed to the test.

We no longer live in medieval times. Witchhunt is over pal.

Of course he did. 8 months later. And after a rigors clean up job. You see what I mean about common sense? Read between the fucking lines. It's really not that fucking hard.

And before you repeat the same nonsense you posted earlier on. How about you provide the reason. Why did Pacquiao all of a sudden accept a deal that 8 months ago was completely unacceptable to him (and only him)? What made it so acceptable now?

"Rigors clean up job" lmfao! Another assumption that you can't fucking prove.

Yeah, it's really not that hard to GUESS.

Pacquiao didn't accept the fight at first cuz Mayweather was going out of boxing protocol. It's all about principle. He was proving a statement that Floyd is not the boss of him. Pacquiao accepted the fight to satisfy public demand... YES, HE TOTALLY IGNORED PRIDE AND EGO.

Now where's that "steroid" proof of yours? And don't try to attempt to change the subject again.

So what your saying is for 8 months Pacquiao was pretty much saying "fuck the public. And fuck what they want", right? Yeah he TOTALLY ignored pride and ego.

And to say Mayweather was going out of protocol is stupid. Pacquiao was gonna get tested anyway. Mayweather just wanted to increase the amount of times they. Not he. They got tested. The man was willing to go through the same tests in hopes of cleaning up the sport and insuring a level playing field. Yet your master actually had a problem with that. Why? What he got against having a clean sport? You say to prove that Mayweather ain't his boss. That's got to be the dumbest fucking thing I heard. The man gets told what to do by Arum and Roach. He has 2 daddies. De La Hoya took the lions share of the money when they fought. Hatton some how managed to get half and forced the fight to happen at 140. His former promoter Murad Muhammed use to rob him blind all the time. Other men are always telling him what to do. Yet you actually want people to believe he left 40 million on the table cuz he didn't want another man to tell him what to do? Damn. That type of lust for a fighter can't be healthy.

[:::PSL:::]

kisser,

what? now montiel is ducking nonito "the minimumweight king" donaire? at least montiel fights guys bigger, and younger than him, unlike "the minimumweight king" who likes to pick on little guys. do me a favor kisser and do a little comparison between montiel's and donaire's record and see who has the better resume and the better competition. hell, montiel even went to z gorres' hometown and kicked his ass. had him doing a little chicken dance in front of his fans. if gorres had half a brain (no wait, he really does) he would have asked for an immediate rematch in the U.S. or in mexico but unfortunately, even with his hometown judges, z gorres wasn't able to steal the title from montiel.

whats bolded just goes to show how big of a piece of shit you are, i don't know how anyone could find what happened to a warrior like Gorres to be funny, and you wanna preach on about Donaire fighting smaller guys? what the hell was Cazarres doing for his entire career until now that he finally stepped it up, and ummm isn't your boyfriend Margacheato fighting a former strawweight at jr. middleweight?!? but yea when Pacquiao waxes that ass it'll be because Margacheato was weight drained again, he's been weight drained since they took the extra weight off of his wraps

if Donaire/Montiel happens i give props to both guys especially Donaire, for finally stepping it up in LEVEL of opposition, seeing how Montiel has been facing top guys a long time already

Correction. A juiced up, steroid out his mind former strawweight

proof noun \ˈprüf\

Definition of PROOF (Mirriam-Webster)

: the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact

: the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning


Now. Do you have any proof that Pacquiao ever used steroids?

"It's not about what you know, It's about what you can prove in the court of law".

- Quote from the movie Law Abiding Citizen.

It's almost sad how mindless some people really are. They actually have to be told by other people that some one is guilty before they accept it. They possess no common sense. If they did they would figure out the answer themselves. There are several reasons why it's obvious. One of the biggest ones is the money. Growing up 40 cents was like Big Foot to Pacquiao. He had heard about it. But never seen it. Yet people seriously want to believe the man left 40 million on the table based on the principle?

That doesn't cut it. 'Til you present an evidence, you're not gonna make any sense. That's the way how things work. Btw, incase you haven't heard. Pacquaio already agreed to the test.

We no longer live in medieval times. Witchhunt is over pal.

Of course he did. 8 months later. And after a rigors clean up job. You see what I mean about common sense? Read between the fucking lines. It's really not that fucking hard.

And before you repeat the same nonsense you posted earlier on. How about you provide the reason. Why did Pacquiao all of a sudden accept a deal that 8 months ago was completely unacceptable to him (and only him)? What made it so acceptable now?

"Rigors clean up job" lmfao! Another assumption that you can't fucking prove.

Yeah, it's really not that hard to GUESS.

Pacquiao didn't accept the fight at first cuz Mayweather was going out of boxing protocol. It's all about principle. He was proving a statement that Floyd is not the boss of him. Pacquiao accepted the fight to satisfy public demand... YES, HE TOTALLY IGNORED PRIDE AND EGO.

Now where's that "steroid" proof of yours? And don't try to attempt to change the subject again.

So what your saying is for 8 months Pacquiao was pretty much saying "fuck the public. And fuck what they want", right? Yeah he TOTALLY ignored pride and ego.

And to say Mayweather was going out of protocol is stupid. Pacquiao was gonna get tested anyway. Mayweather just wanted to increase the amount of times they. Not he. They got tested. The man was willing to go through the same tests in hopes of cleaning up the sport and insuring a level playing field. Yet your master actually had a problem with that. Why? What he got against having a clean sport? You say to prove that Mayweather ain't his boss. That's got to be the dumbest fucking thing I heard. The man gets told what to do by Arum and Roach. He has 2 daddies. De La Hoya took the lions share of the money when they fought. Hatton some how managed to get half and forced the fight to happen at 140. His former promoter Murad Muhammed use to rob him blind all the time. Other men are always telling him what to do. Yet you actually want people to believe he left 40 million on the table cuz he didn't want another man to tell him what to do? Damn. That type of lust for a fighter can't be healthy.

There is what we call the Nevada State Athletic Commision. 'Ever heard of them? Floyd was lording them. If Floyd is sincere in cleaning the sport, he should present his case and advocate change with the governing body, the Athletic or Boxing Commissions. They are the entity in charge on safety of boxers. That's what I meant by Floyd going out of boxing protocol. He's making his own rule. NSAC are very good doing their job so far. It’s the prevailing system and rule of procedures. Why the need to go above it?

Why does he have to impose that random blood test to Pacquiao when in fact, he knows that intrusive blood extraction has a psychological and physical effect on Manny? Isn’t it pretty obvious, Floyd was trying to gain a psychological edge off the ring? Why the call for random blood test when Pacquiao had been clean all throughout his fights and never been tested positive? I bet you can't even link him to a guy like Victor Conte.

Floyd couldn't make the weigh-in and didn't even bother to shred some pounds off when he fought JMM. Do you call that leveling the playing field?

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states.



Do you call that cleaning the sports?

Unlike you. I'm not guessing. I'm not assuming. I'm simply stating the facts.

Again. Where is that "steroid" proof?

[Violent Demise]

There is what we call the Nevada State Athletic Commision. 'Ever heard of them? Floyd was lording them. If Floyd is sincere in cleaning the sport, he should present his case and advocate change with the governing body, the Athletic or Boxing Commissions. They are the entity in charge on safety of boxers. That's what I meant by Floyd going out of boxing protocol. He's making his own rule. NSAC are very good doing their job so far. It’s the prevailing system and rule of procedures. Why the need to go above it?

Why does he have to impose that random blood test to Pacquiao when in fact, he knows that intrusive blood extraction has a psychological and physical effect on Manny? Isn’t it pretty obvious, Floyd was trying to gain a psychological edge off the ring? Why the call for random blood test when Pacquiao had been clean all throughout his fights and never been tested positive? I bet you can't even link him to a guy like Victor Conte.

Floyd couldn't make the weigh-in and didn't even bother to shred some pounds off when he fought JMM. Do you call that leveling the playing field?

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states.



Do you call that cleaning the sports?

Unlike you. I'm not guessing. I'm not assuming. I'm simply stating the facts.

Again. Where is that "steroid" proof?

This is boxing. The only sport where the actual participators get fucked in the end. Mayweather can go before the board and present his case. Than he can go home as it gets tossed to the side or lost in the shuffle and wait as nothing happens. The only way for boxers to get things done is to do them themselves. Mayweather was willing to clean up the sport. Pacquiao wasn't.

The Marquez weight thing is just more proof on how much Mayweather wanted the fight. Pacquiao obviously didn't want the same thing to happen to him. So he wants Mayweather to be fined for every pound he's over. Fine. No problem. But that's not it. Pacquiao wants Mayweather to pay huge for every pound he's over. Ok. No problem. Than Pacquiao drops his insane, moronic amount. 10 million a pound. Again. No problem. Done. Done. Done. Mayweather accepted all of Pacquiao's demands. No matter how moronic they were. Mayweather had one demand. One that actually benefits the sport. And your master cowards out. The Great Flip warrior traumatized by visions of evil needles. Sad

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states. Ok. What's your point? The state he uses it in considers it legal. What's the problem?

[:::PSL:::]

There is what we call the Nevada State Athletic Commision. 'Ever heard of them? Floyd was lording them. If Floyd is sincere in cleaning the sport, he should present his case and advocate change with the governing body, the Athletic or Boxing Commissions. They are the entity in charge on safety of boxers. That's what I meant by Floyd going out of boxing protocol. He's making his own rule. NSAC are very good doing their job so far. It’s the prevailing system and rule of procedures. Why the need to go above it?

Why does he have to impose that random blood test to Pacquiao when in fact, he knows that intrusive blood extraction has a psychological and physical effect on Manny? Isn’t it pretty obvious, Floyd was trying to gain a psychological edge off the ring? Why the call for random blood test when Pacquiao had been clean all throughout his fights and never been tested positive? I bet you can't even link him to a guy like Victor Conte.

Floyd couldn't make the weigh-in and didn't even bother to shred some pounds off when he fought JMM. Do you call that leveling the playing field?

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states.



Do you call that cleaning the sports?

Unlike you. I'm not guessing. I'm not assuming. I'm simply stating the facts.

Again. Where is that "steroid" proof?

This is boxing. The only sport where the actual participators get fucked in the end. Mayweather can go before the board and present his case. Than he can go home as it gets tossed to the side or lost in the shuffle and wait as nothing happens. The only way for boxers to get things done is to do them themselves. Mayweather was willing to clean up the sport. Pacquiao wasn't.

The Marquez weight thing is just more proof on how much Mayweather wanted the fight. Pacquiao obviously didn't want the same thing to happen to him. So he wants Mayweather to be fined for every pound he's over. Fine. No problem. But that's not it. Pacquiao wants Mayweather to pay huge for every pound he's over. Ok. No problem. Than Pacquiao drops his insane, moronic amount. 10 million a pound. Again. No problem. Done. Done. Done. Mayweather accepted all of Pacquiao's demands. No matter how moronic they were. Mayweather had one demand. One that actually benefits the sport. And your master cowards out. The Great Flip warrior traumatized by visions of evil needles. Sad

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states. Ok. What's your point? The state he uses it in considers it legal. What's the problem?

What's Mayweather stopping him from cleaning up the sport now then?

$10M huh . It's funny how you exxagerate things.

Now about Floyd using xylocaine. I guess you don't find it odd when someone say "Hmm... Let's just clean the sports in Nevada... Fuck the remaining 49 states".

And you talk to me about common sense





Again. For the fifth time...

WHERE IS THAT PROOF OF YOURS THAT PACQUIAO EVER USED STEROIDS?

[KananKrus]

Unsubstantiated accusations merit tranquil abolishments or many a placid reposes... or better yet, a violent demise? Sorry out of topic...

Yeah, Montiel and Donaire, lets get ready to rumble!

[Violent Demise]

There is what we call the Nevada State Athletic Commision. 'Ever heard of them? Floyd was lording them. If Floyd is sincere in cleaning the sport, he should present his case and advocate change with the governing body, the Athletic or Boxing Commissions. They are the entity in charge on safety of boxers. That's what I meant by Floyd going out of boxing protocol. He's making his own rule. NSAC are very good doing their job so far. It’s the prevailing system and rule of procedures. Why the need to go above it?

Why does he have to impose that random blood test to Pacquiao when in fact, he knows that intrusive blood extraction has a psychological and physical effect on Manny? Isn’t it pretty obvious, Floyd was trying to gain a psychological edge off the ring? Why the call for random blood test when Pacquiao had been clean all throughout his fights and never been tested positive? I bet you can't even link him to a guy like Victor Conte.

Floyd couldn't make the weigh-in and didn't even bother to shred some pounds off when he fought JMM. Do you call that leveling the playing field?

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states.



Do you call that cleaning the sports?

Unlike you. I'm not guessing. I'm not assuming. I'm simply stating the facts.

Again. Where is that "steroid" proof?

This is boxing. The only sport where the actual participators get fucked in the end. Mayweather can go before the board and present his case. Than he can go home as it gets tossed to the side or lost in the shuffle and wait as nothing happens. The only way for boxers to get things done is to do them themselves. Mayweather was willing to clean up the sport. Pacquiao wasn't.

The Marquez weight thing is just more proof on how much Mayweather wanted the fight. Pacquiao obviously didn't want the same thing to happen to him. So he wants Mayweather to be fined for every pound he's over. Fine. No problem. But that's not it. Pacquiao wants Mayweather to pay huge for every pound he's over. Ok. No problem. Than Pacquiao drops his insane, moronic amount. 10 million a pound. Again. No problem. Done. Done. Done. Mayweather accepted all of Pacquiao's demands. No matter how moronic they were. Mayweather had one demand. One that actually benefits the sport. And your master cowards out. The Great Flip warrior traumatized by visions of evil needles. Sad

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states. Ok. What's your point? The state he uses it in considers it legal. What's the problem?

What's Mayweather stopping him from cleaning up the sport now then?

$10M huh . It's funny how you exxagerate things.

Now about Floyd using xylocaine. I guess you don't find it odd when someone say "Hmm... Let's just clean the sports in Nevada... Fuck the remaining 49 states".

And you talk to me about common sense





Again. For the fifth time...

WHERE IS THAT PROOF OF YOURS THAT PACQUIAO EVER USED STEROIDS?

What did I exaggerate? And here I thought I was actually talking to a real Pacquiao

Mayweather Takes Verbal Shots at Pacquiao and Mosley - Boxing News

Boxing Penalty - Manny Pacquiao wants Floyd Mayweather Jr to pay 10 million for each weighty Mistake

Pacquiao wants $10 million per pound penalty above 147

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather

As you can see, Mayweather accepted Pacquiao ludicrous demand. A demand that would of only benefit Pacquiao. Pacquiao rejected Mayweather reasonable demand. A demand that would of benefited the entire sport of Boxing

[:::PSL:::]

There is what we call the Nevada State Athletic Commision. 'Ever heard of them? Floyd was lording them. If Floyd is sincere in cleaning the sport, he should present his case and advocate change with the governing body, the Athletic or Boxing Commissions. They are the entity in charge on safety of boxers. That's what I meant by Floyd going out of boxing protocol. He's making his own rule. NSAC are very good doing their job so far. It’s the prevailing system and rule of procedures. Why the need to go above it?

Why does he have to impose that random blood test to Pacquiao when in fact, he knows that intrusive blood extraction has a psychological and physical effect on Manny? Isn’t it pretty obvious, Floyd was trying to gain a psychological edge off the ring? Why the call for random blood test when Pacquiao had been clean all throughout his fights and never been tested positive? I bet you can't even link him to a guy like Victor Conte.

Floyd couldn't make the weigh-in and didn't even bother to shred some pounds off when he fought JMM. Do you call that leveling the playing field?

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states.



Do you call that cleaning the sports?

Unlike you. I'm not guessing. I'm not assuming. I'm simply stating the facts.

Again. Where is that "steroid" proof?

This is boxing. The only sport where the actual participators get fucked in the end. Mayweather can go before the board and present his case. Than he can go home as it gets tossed to the side or lost in the shuffle and wait as nothing happens. The only way for boxers to get things done is to do them themselves. Mayweather was willing to clean up the sport. Pacquiao wasn't.

The Marquez weight thing is just more proof on how much Mayweather wanted the fight. Pacquiao obviously didn't want the same thing to happen to him. So he wants Mayweather to be fined for every pound he's over. Fine. No problem. But that's not it. Pacquiao wants Mayweather to pay huge for every pound he's over. Ok. No problem. Than Pacquiao drops his insane, moronic amount. 10 million a pound. Again. No problem. Done. Done. Done. Mayweather accepted all of Pacquiao's demands. No matter how moronic they were. Mayweather had one demand. One that actually benefits the sport. And your master cowards out. The Great Flip warrior traumatized by visions of evil needles. Sad

Floyd uses substance that is banned in 49 states. Ok. What's your point? The state he uses it in considers it legal. What's the problem?

What's Mayweather stopping him from cleaning up the sport now then?

$10M huh . It's funny how you exxagerate things.

Now about Floyd using xylocaine. I guess you don't find it odd when someone say "Hmm... Let's just clean the sports in Nevada... Fuck the remaining 49 states".

And you talk to me about common sense





Again. For the fifth time...

WHERE IS THAT PROOF OF YOURS THAT PACQUIAO EVER USED STEROIDS?

What did I exaggerate? And here I thought I was actually talking to a real Pacquiao

Mayweather Takes Verbal Shots at Pacquiao and Mosley - Boxing News

Boxing Penalty - Manny Pacquiao wants Floyd Mayweather Jr to pay 10 million for each weighty Mistake

Pacquiao wants $10 million per pound penalty above 147

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather

As you can see, Mayweather accepted Pacquiao ludicrous demand. A demand that would of only benefit Pacquiao. Pacquiao rejected Mayweather reasonable demand. A demand that would of benefited the entire sport of Boxing

I can see you did your homework. Well done with the research on the penalty issue.

But the blood thingy though... Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather is old news. It's dated Dec 23, 2009. You need to update yourself on that.

Keep looking for that steroid proof. Maybe you'll have luck on that too.

Hopefully, you already have it ready the next time you post in this thread.

Btw, since you shared some negative publicities for Pac, I'm just curious what you think about these negative stuff for Mayweather...

It's Official: Mayhweather's Scared!
http://www.afro.com/sections/sports/sto ... oryid=1960 by Stephen D. Riley dated 20July 2010

It's All Floyd Mayweather Jr's Fault! his numerous critics says
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_ ... ing-1.html by Jed Jacobsohn dated 1252H 20July 2010

Floyd Mayweather Jr is a Proven Liar
http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/ ... oven-liar/ by Scoop Malinowski dated 20July 2010

Mayweather Playing a Dangerous game with Pacquiao
http://www.examiner.com/x-23630-Oakland ... h-Pacquiao by Joseph Bourely dated 21July 2010

Mayweather Jr- A case of a Bully being Bullied
http://philboxing.com/news/story-41540.html by Mark Villanueva dated 20July 2010

Floyd "MayBe" mayweather in Danger of Losing for Pound for Pound Ranking, Legacy, Respect
http://www.boxingdispatch.com/2010/07/floyd-“maybe”-mayweather-in-danger-of-losing-pound-for-pound-ranking-legacy-respect/ by Mike Colapietro dated 20July 2010

A Big Hole in Team Mayweather's "No Negotiations" Claim
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29390 by Rick Reeno dated 20July 2010

ESPN Called Floyd Mayweather Jr a COWARD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2BJst5P_Y by ESPN/Pinoycyberwebs dated 15July 2010

Mayweather's Legacy- Bert Sugar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZnc4sQ ... 1&index=43



(We totally derailed this thread. Sorry Mods.)

[Violent Demise]

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.

[Rantcatrat]

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.

If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.

[:::PSL:::]

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.

If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.

Lol! I know. It's puzzling everybody, right?

I don't understand it either. Maybe cuz Floyd is damn well aware that Pac was never on drugs in the first place.

[Violent Demise]

Blood remains issue for Pacquiao-Mayweather was used only to provide more proof that Mayweather excepted Pacquiao's ridiculous, you say exaggerated demand for a 10 million per pound penalty.

It's like this. Both fighters deserve blame for this fight not happening. I never once claimed Mayweather was innocent in this. He is not. The man is without a doubt the dumbest genius ever. The way he position himself to be marketed the way he is was masterful. To think the man can clock 20 million dollar checks with a less than pleasing style is clearly the work of a genius. At the same time he says a lot of moronic shit and his current delays and vacation taking are straight stupid. Stupid Genius. It fits. But anyway. Looking at the whole picture with my always unbiased eyes. And it's pretty clear Mayweather takes about 20% of the blame. Pacquiao takes the other 80%. Think about it. Pacquiao had some how, some way gotten Mayweather to agree to a 50-50 split. What looked like the biggest obstacle was token care of quickly He got his 10 million per pound penalty. Something I don't think any other fighter would ever accept. Yet the fight don't happen. Cuz he don't want to get tested that much. Mayweather not gonna tell him what to do. He don't like needles. It makes him feel like a junkie. I don't know. Whatever his lame reason was. Point was Pacquiao wasn't gonna be dictated too. And under no circumstance was he gonna be tested that much. Fast forward 8 months (A time frame every single expert agree would be enough time for someone to rid there blood of all traces). And now all of a sudden he like needles. It's ok for Mayweather to dictate to him now. He wants the tests. There was no increase in his purse. He got no extra perks. The same terms. He wants them now. All the tests he wants. Of course he does. Now he can pass them. Common sense.

If he passes the test, why is there an issue?

I found it suspicious that he wouldn't take the tests in the past. I agree with you there. But, if he is willing to take the tests now, then I don't understand the problem. If he has no drugs in his system for the fight and for months before the fight, then he is drug free at that time at least.

I did say Mayweather wasn't exactly blameless in this charade. His share of the blame comes from him not accepting the fight the second time. He should of ridiculed Manny. Mock Manny. Questioned Manny for the delay as he ACCEPTS the fight. He didn't. The fucking idiot.

Still it don't change facts. Manny accepted the same deal. No change in any of the terms. Why not accept it 8 months ago? 7 months ago? 6 months ago? 5 months ago? The deal was a great one for both fighters. It wasn't gonna get any better. And he knew that. Roach himself said he was shocked the financial terms were done so quickly without any problems. So the question remains. Why didn't he take it when first offered? It's obvious what Pac did. He needed the time to clean out.

[brucelee]

LOL. I've been gone for many months and when I come back, VD is still ranting about this blood test issue.

PSL,

Are you pacstraightleft? Nice to know that you're still here.

[KKisser]

finally! finally!!

(wonder how this thread turned into a pac-mayweather debate...?)


if this fight turns out to be as competitive as most people expected then a rematch could be next.

i have donaire winning in an abbreviated fight though.

[KKisser]

yeah!

that was the money punch!

[:::PSL:::]

Somebody here will get a brand spanking new sig, and will have to use it for 3 months.