I hope Margarito wins...

[erics44]

I can't see how a guy who blatantly tried to cheat with the most dangerous thing ever (loaded glove) has any chance to spark any good for the sake of boxing. No matter if Floyd-Pacman happens or not, a Pac win on that one is the only positive option available.

maybe maybe not, but i think most boxing people (from opinions on this forum) seem to think pac has cheated too with roids

which is worse, roids or the loaded glove?

you know bodybuilders become upto 15% or more stronger when on roids, was pac punching 15% harder and faster?

There's a big diferrence between "thinking" and actually "knowing".

Btw. Pac is prolly about 145-148 right now. The guy is still underweight. They're having him eat 5 meals a day. Ariza is making him consume 5,000-7,000 calories per day just to keep him heavy. Pac walks around 140-145 and never exceeded 150 lbs at fight night. So, do really think Pac has bodybuilders frame?

yep there is a big difference, and will we ever know?

it doesnt matter what frame you have tho thats the general affect of roids

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I can't see how a guy who blatantly tried to cheat with the most dangerous thing ever (loaded glove) has any chance to spark any good for the sake of boxing. No matter if Floyd-Pacman happens or not, a Pac win on that one is the only positive option available.

maybe maybe not, but i think most boxing people (from opinions on this forum) seem to think pac has cheated too with roids

which is worse, roids or the loaded glove?

you know bodybuilders become upto 15% or more stronger when on roids, was pac punching 15% harder and faster?

There's a big diferrence between "thinking" and actually "knowing".

Btw. Pac is prolly about 145-148 right now. The guy is still underweight. They're having him eat 5 meals a day. Ariza is making him consume 5,000-7,000 calories per day just to keep him heavy. Pac walks around 140-145 and never exceeded 150 lbs at fight night. So, do really think Pac has bodybuilders frame?

yep there is a big difference, and will we ever know?

it doesnt matter what frame you have tho thats the general affect of roids

Well. How do you know that for sure?

Sorry but, when you said "bodybuilders" a buffed up guy occured in my mind right away.

[erics44]

I can't see how a guy who blatantly tried to cheat with the most dangerous thing ever (loaded glove) has any chance to spark any good for the sake of boxing. No matter if Floyd-Pacman happens or not, a Pac win on that one is the only positive option available.

maybe maybe not, but i think most boxing people (from opinions on this forum) seem to think pac has cheated too with roids

which is worse, roids or the loaded glove?

you know bodybuilders become upto 15% or more stronger when on roids, was pac punching 15% harder and faster?

There's a big diferrence between "thinking" and actually "knowing".

Btw. Pac is prolly about 145-148 right now. The guy is still underweight. They're having him eat 5 meals a day. Ariza is making him consume 5,000-7,000 calories per day just to keep him heavy. Pac walks around 140-145 and never exceeded 150 lbs at fight night. So, do really think Pac has bodybuilders frame?

yep there is a big difference, and will we ever know?

it doesnt matter what frame you have tho thats the general affect of roids

Well. How do you know that for sure?

Sorry but, when you said "bodybuilders" a buffed up guy occured in my mind right away.

i workout, and i know a lot of people who are into it and i speak to a lot of people who take roids in the gym and on forums

you get kids with skinny frames wanting to be buffed up quick start taking roids, and a 10 to 15% or even more strength gain is the norm

in fact they usually gain a bit more strength than the bigger lads because there is a lot more room for it

and if you think if manny was on roids you would expect him to be getting the best there is and doing it 100% properly so you would think he would be at the top end of the gain scale