Could Guillermo Rigondeaux be the top 10 p4p with fewest fights?

[Taeth]

I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.

[ElTerribleMorales]

with the competition he's facing, highly doubtful

[killersheep]

I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.

If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.

[Taeth]

I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.

If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.

Rigondeaux won't just stay at 122, and I think he could any of the guys to come to america because he will be a bigger draw than Lee or Nishioka and they will make more money in the states. He also states that he will be willing to go down and face Montiel and/or Donaire, or go up to 126 and face Gamboa, JML, Caballero, etc.

Morales, with the competition he's facing? He has barely started as a pro and he is facing a guy that beat Caballero before. That seems pretty good to me for his 7th pro fight.

[killersheep]

I'm just curious what is the least amount of fights somebody has had to become a top 10 p4p? I think he could reach that plateau in 3-4 if they give him the true in and around his division. Though most have fled his division already.

If he stays at 122 he's going to have an extremely hard time getting p4p status. I believe he's going to have a hard time getting quality fights in general. He's fighting Cordoba which is definitely a step in the right direction, but nowhere near the p4p radar. To get the best fights at 122 (Nishioka and Lee) he has to travel to Japan, which may not be congruent with his team's marketing plan.

This also goes against a time that has permanent fixtures Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, The war torn super six members, the reemergance of a heavyweight on the list, a back and forth battle for middleweight lineal titles. And other lineal contests.

Last but certainly not least, he is not a Golden Boy fighter.

Rigondeaux won't just stay at 122, and I think he could any of the guys to come to america because he will be a bigger draw than Lee or Nishioka and they will make more money in the states. He also states that he will be willing to go down and face Montiel and/or Donaire, or go up to 126 and face Gamboa, JML, Caballero, etc.

Morales, with the competition he's facing? He has barely started as a pro and he is facing a guy that beat Caballero before. That seems pretty good to me for his 7th pro fight.

Lee and Nishioka are huge stars in Japan, they could fight over here, but it would need to be a big purse to make it worth their while.

Why would Montiel, Donaire, Gamboa, JML, Caballero, DPDL, Jhonny, or any of those guys fight Rigondeaux when there is much easier higher reward fights available.

My doubting that Rigondeaux will be become p4p with the fewest fights has nothing to do with the fact that he wouldn't beat these guys and everything to do with his inability to get fights going forward. He is simply too high risk, low reward. Cordoba had a great win against Caballero, but that was many years and many wars ago, after Cordoba's loss to Dunne he was set back with his bargaining power and hence available for a fight with Rigondeaux.

Also it's a little presumptuous to state that he will fight anyone anywhere, I haven't heard him make any claim to back that up.

[amat]

Are you serious Taeth? The guy is facing his first test 7 fights in. It's great that you think he can compete with the top guys 7 fights in, great! However, what makes you think this would actually happen? Kind of ridiculous and it would take a lot more then just cleaning out 122 right now to make that happen.

[gramm]

I think its possible. his body punching game is h the roof.

[milmascaras1]

why not? i mean, nonito donaire is currently the no. 4 p4p rated fighter in the world and he only has one great win on his resume. knowing this, anything is possible!!!!

[killersheep]

why not? i mean, nonito donaire is currently the no. 4 p4p rated fighter in the world and he only has one great win on his resume. knowing this, anything is possible!!!!

He beat a p4p fighter though.

[milmascaras1]

killer,

yeah but who has he beaten since? you compare donaire's resume with the other top 10 p4p'ers and it's a joke he's even at no. 4. and this coming from a boxing fan who thinks donaire is very, very talented. i mean, comparing donaire's record to montiel's is apples and oranges and you don't see montiel on any top 10 lists. these p4p lists are just very subjective and biased to whomever these writers like.

they should make a list made up of sportswriters from around the world instead of writers from the Ring magazine. many people say the abc organizations are jokes, well have you taken a look at The Ring's ratings lately? total joke if you ask me!

[killersheep]

killer,

yeah but who has he beaten since? you compare donaire's resume with the other top 10 p4p'ers and it's a joke he's even at no. 4. and this coming from a boxing fan who thinks donaire is very, very talented. i mean, comparing donaire's record to montiel's is apples and oranges and you don't see montiel on any top 10 lists. these p4p lists are just very subjective and biased to whomever these writers like.

they should make a list made up of sportswriters from around the world instead of writers from the Ring magazine. many people say the abc organizations are jokes, well have you taken a look at The Ring's ratings lately? total joke if you ask me!

I don't disagree with you at all, but compare that to Rigondeaux's record.............................

[milmascaras1]

killer,

i was just being sarcastic about rigondeaux because of donaire being up so far up the list. i wouldn't have a problem with donaire being at say, no. 9 or 10 but come on, no. 4? that Ring p4p list is a complete travesty and tries to insult the intelligence of hardcore boxing fans.

[killersheep]

killer,

i was just being sarcastic about rigondeaux because of donaire being up so far up the list. i wouldn't have a problem with donaire being at say, no. 9 or 10 but come on, no. 4? that Ring p4p list is a complete travesty and tries to insult the intelligence of hardcore boxing fans.

I don't think he should be on the list at all personally, not until he has another meaningful fight at least, but these p4p rankings are simply talking points, they don't have any true meaning.

[Violent Demise]

Rigondeaux will never make p4p fighter. He's a fine fighter. But he's past his prime.

[gramm]

Rigondeaux will never make p4p fighter. He's a fine fighter. But he's past his prime.

Hes only 28. He still has a couple more years at his prime.