When was the last time Pacman faced a true boxer?

[Majesty]

I know some will say ODLH but that wasn't a prime boxing Oscar. So take away that fight and when was the last time he faced a fighter that could truly box on a world class level?

When I say box, I mean that their initial strategy is to box first, fight second.

Marquez...without question. Marquez is a true technician...intelligent and skilled. That is why his timing and counter punching gave Pac fits.

Exactly. Which is the exact reason I have Mayweather to school Pac. Mayweather is the greatest counter puncher and has the best boxing brain of any fighter in the world today. For me that is what will make him dominate Pac who likes to pick off these fighter who just keep walking him down all night and being pummelled for their troubles.

Oscar was a great boxer in his day BUT I don't think he should have agreed to make Welter, and he had already shown he wasn't the force he once was when he fought Forbes. Don't want to take it away from Pac though as I think he is the greatest weight climber of all time, but I truly believe he will more than meet his match if he fights Floyd.

people keep saying this when honestly i think it's being played up too much, Pacquiao is doing what Jones already has done, difference is in the higher weight classes well the gaps between divisions are a bit wider therefore there are less weight classes than from jnr welter on down, both guys have spanned their careers 40 lbs, if anything Jones' accomplishment of winning a title should be even more praised since he didn't do it at a catch weight and Ruiz outweighed him by what? 40 lbs?

it's not a knock on Pacquiao, but i think what makes his accomplishments special is more WHO he has beaten rather than how many titles or weight classes he's jumped up in

the thing you have remember though is boxing fans are fickle.

Because Jones' losses since then have 'apparently' put into question how great he is, accomplishments of the past be darned its all flushed down the pike because anyone can pick apart a record.

If Jones had retired after he fought Tarver the first time you'd be hearing he was the greatest since Ray Robinson and when it came time to bite the bullet he faced it flawlessly. That didn't happen and people ignore his accomplishments and pick them apart instead.

Same thing will happen to Pacquiao(in america) if Mayweather beats him one sidedly.

I mean come on, Pacquiao is a guy HBO said Zahir Raheem would trouble after he lost to Morales and Raheem beat him. Remember HBO said that Raheem was a slick boxer counter puncher and someone to keep Pacquiao AWAY from.

But now, they are trying to make you believe he has the greatest chance of beating Mayweather.

If he loses, the same things will happen. One thing I will give a fighter that is fighting for their country like in the Phillipines. Is that they will stand behind Pacquiao even after if Mayweather dominated him. While I'm willing to bet here in the US all the picking apart of his record will begin on a much larger scale.

Sad, yes, but that's how its been going. You build a guy up for 10 years only to try to pick him apart in a manner of months.

Apparently around here your victories mean absolutely squat if there is a reason to criticize you for them, win or loss. No fighter out there has flawless performances, no one. But tell that to the people that hate on every performance they've had where they faced adversity.

I kind of find it hilarious how people always refuse to give credit to a fighter until they've faced adversity. And then once they've faced adversity, use it as a reason of weakness against them.