Froch-Abraham - Nobody gives a monkeys? Fact.

[rjj tszyu]

Been looking forward to this one for a while now, expecting a war, fifty fifty fight for me, is Froch shop warn after Kessler n Pascal fights and can Abraham start fast enough and not just rely on a strong finish, can Carl take Arthurs best shots, does Arthur take Carls.

The problem is Froch takes a shit load of shots everytime he fights a world class fighter, I mean I'm still amazed at how he won the fight against Taylor. But thats what makes this fight so special IMO, you've got Abraham who has great power as shown vs Taylor and he also has a good solid defence due to his quite long forearms. He reminds me of Winky Wright for this, he had the long forearms and it made his opponents struggle to hit him to head or body. This will make it hard for Carl to land often which to me he needs to do to break Abraham down.

On the other side of the coin you have Froch who despite his lack of true classy technical skill has a will to win like not many others in the game today. He has a good solid chin but even when that does crack (and it has been) his heart takes over and pushes him to move on and survive. This cannot be taught, it is something you either have or don't. The problem though for me is everybody has a limit to how much punishment they can take before their body starts wilting under pressure and I'm not sure now how much more Froch can take, his style is not one that makes for a long career at the top of boxing and I think Abraham might just be the one to exploit this fact. One thing I will say though is Carl has the power if he lands enough, I'm just not sure he will.

[gramm]

Been looking forward to this one for a while now, expecting a war, fifty fifty fight for me, is Froch shop warn after Kessler n Pascal fights and can Abraham start fast enough and not just rely on a strong finish, can Carl take Arthurs best shots, does Arthur take Carls.

The problem is Froch takes a shit load of shots everytime he fights a world class fighter, I mean I'm still amazed at how he won the fight against Taylor. But thats what makes this fight so special IMO, you've got Abraham who has great power as shown vs Taylor and he also has a good solid defence due to his quite long forearms. He reminds me of Winky Wright for this, he had the long forearms and it made his opponents struggle to hit him to head or body. This will make it hard for Carl to land often which to me he needs to do to break Abraham down.

On the other side of the coin you have Froch who despite his lack of true classy technical skill has a will to win like not many others in the game today. He has a good solid chin but even when that does crack (and it has been) his heart takes over and pushes him to move on and survive. This cannot be taught, it is something you either have or don't. The problem though for me is everybody has a limit to how much punishment they can take before their body starts wilting under pressure and I'm not sure now how much more Froch can take, his style is not one that makes for a long career at the top of boxing and I think Abraham might just be the one to exploit this fact. One thing I will say though is Carl has the power if he lands enough, I'm just not sure he will.

I agree with you. Froch is almost guaranteed to take some heavy shots in every fight hes in, and AA has some serious one punch KO power. Dirrell got past AAs gaurd because he was switching up angles all the time and I do not think Froch will do that.

[Kev]

I think it's down to Froch not being a great self promoter maybe. There isn't anything about his personality that really resonates good or bad.

When you look at some of our more popular fighters, they had divisive or strong personalities, and people WANT to see them either win big or get smashed up.

Look at Amir Khan and Audley Harrison, both figures with a lot of hate. Ricky Hatton had his grating man of the people act that many people adored and he was a popular personality, as were Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank before them.

Joe Calzaghe meanwhile was never really a massive household name until he smashed up Jeff Lacy about 24 years into his world title reign. He didn't have the abrasive or controversial personality of the others to make him famous for a long long time.

Froch is like that. An ordinary white boy. Fighters need some colour, in every sense, to make people care about them one way or the other imo.

He will only get start to get a big name if he wins the Super Six.

[gramm]

I think it's down to Froch not being a great self promoter maybe. There isn't anything about his personality that really resonates good or bad.

When you look at some of our more popular fighters, they had divisive or strong personalities, and people WANT to see them either win big or get smashed up.

Look at Amir Khan and Audley Harrison, both figures with a lot of hate. Ricky Hatton had his grating man of the people act that many people adored and he was a popular personality, as were Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank before them.

Joe Calzaghe meanwhile was never really a massive household name until he smashed up Jeff Lacy about 24 years into his world title reign. He didn't have the abrasive or controversial personality of the others to make him famous for a long long time.

Froch is like that. An ordinary white boy. Fighters need some colour, in every sense, to make people care about them one way or the other imo.

He will only get start to get a big name if he wins the Super Six.

Needs color How many great fighters are out there right now that are white? not too many. In my opinion there needs to be more white fighters that are household names.