Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
bilbao,

no, the idiot is you. and first off, do you really think pacquiao was better than a prime de la hoya? man, that kool-aid must really taste good, huh?
You don't think Manny is better than a prime Oscar?

Manny is one of the best boxers of all time, already probably top 10, if he beat Floyd he would be top 5.

Yes he is better than a prime Oscar. Oscar lost every significant he ever fought, Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweather.

Manny beat everybody, how do they even compare?

Look at his resume

Morales
Barrera
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Cotto

All of them may yet make the Hall of Fame.
I actually agree that p4p Pac is better than oscar in his prime but here is where it gets strange for me. I think Pac is at his peak now and he is at welterweight BUT I don't think he beats a prime ODLH. Pac is a very small Welter who could easily make 135 whereas Oscar matured into a big Welter but he had great speed in that division, great skills and one of the best chins ever too, I just think Oscar might be too much for Pac in his prime.

I think Pac avoids the 135 division because of JMM, I think he just has issues with a true counter puncher that can negate his speed like Marquez does and I don't think he wants anymore of that whilst he can fight these much bigger men and relatively easily beat them. These are the same reasons I think PBF comfortably beats Pac.