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I don't think milmascaras is an idiot. He is extreme, but amongst the bombast I do see some valid points being made.

I think Manny is in his prime at the higher weights as he isn't needing to boil down so much. We saw in the second Barrera fight how lethargic he looked, but that fight was also down to Barrera being unwilling to engage. We also saw Morales outbox him first time out and IMO Marquez had his number twice.

Pac has been far more impressive at the higher weights, but there is a degree of smoke and mirrors involved and some people have been getting high on the fumes. Manny is impressive for sure, but there are still question marks. Why not go after Mosley 2 years ago instead of Clottey, Cotto and then Margarito? Instead each of the previous opponents was coming off of a loss and in the cases of the later two, they were devastating losses. Where are the unbeaten fighters in their prime? There simply aren't any. They have been picking very carefully.
Good question! Where are they indeed? Do you have any names of these undefeated fighters in their prime that Manny has been avoiding at welterweight?

I can only think of Berto, but the Pac haters on here have already dismissed this as a gimme fight for Manny. So which unbeaten welterweight fighters are you thinking he dodged?
Well, if he was going to become a WW it would have been good to see him fight Mosely post Margarito, it wasn't as though Mosley didn't try to get Pac in the ring. Sure, he wasn't unbeaten but more of a threat than the damaged goods that were Margarito and Cotto.

Personally, I would love to see Pac fight Tim Bradley who is a fighter that I really rate. He is clearly the stand out fighter at 140. He is quick, skilled, has output and punch variety. Bradley is the real deal and would be a tough fight for Manny.

And of course the other unbeaten one won't fight anyone, so not much Manny can do in that regard.