Did Pac reach his prime above or below lightweight?

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I don't think milmascaras is an idiot. He is extreme, but amongst the bombast I do see some valid points being made.

I think Manny is in his prime at the higher weights as he isn't needing to boil down so much. We saw in the second Barrera fight how lethargic he looked, but that fight was also down to Barrera being unwilling to engage. We also saw Morales outbox him first time out and IMO Marquez had his number twice.

Pac has been far more impressive at the higher weights, but there is a degree of smoke and mirrors involved and some people have been getting high on the fumes. Manny is impressive for sure, but there are still question marks. Why not go after Mosley 2 years ago instead of Clottey, Cotto and then Margarito? Instead each of the previous opponents was coming off of a loss and in the cases of the later two, they were devastating losses. Where are the unbeaten fighters in their prime? There simply aren't any. They have been picking very carefully.

Good question! Where are they indeed? Do you have any names of these undefeated fighters in their prime that Manny has been avoiding at welterweight?

I can only think of Berto, but the Pac haters on here have already dismissed this as a gimme fight for Manny. So which unbeaten welterweight fighters are you thinking he dodged?

Word is that Pacquiao dodged Juan Diaz(when undefeated) and Valero at 135, Bradley and Alexander at 140 and of course Berto and Mayweather at 147 and Chris John at 126.

Other defeated fighters he ducked would be Raheem, JMM, Casamayor, Nate Campbell, Shane Mosley (before his fight with Floyd), Michael Katsidis, Ali Funeka, Marcos Maidana, Ortiz, Peterson, Paul Williams and now Sergio Martinez.

That is all.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr supposedly avoided Stevie Johnston, Acelino Freitas, Paul Spadafora, Joel Casamayor, Antonio Margarito, ETC. There's always someone they could of fought.

But who cares they've still both beat very good fighters, and both fighters have an excellent resume.

And both are great in different ways, i just wish they'd fight so we can find out who's better. But it won't happen, so hopefully my boy JMM gets to fight Manny Pacquiao at a fair weight.

So he can hopefully stop living in the shadow's of Manny Pacquiao, because it really isn't fair that he should have to. He's just as exciting as Manny Pacquiao, he never ducks anyone. And he took Manny Pacquiao to the wire twice.