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    Default Re: Who did better agaisnt Floyd?

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
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    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him

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    Default Re: Who did better agaisnt Floyd?

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?

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    Default Re: Who did better agaisnt Floyd?

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?
    are you seriously that dense? ummm i'm not even gonna bother with you Julius cause you do the same fucking thing time and time again, you nit pick bits of info trying to build up a strong case for Manny, yet when someone knocks it down, using the same info you provided you pull in random bits of bullshit, you said it yourself you're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao nuttlover, to each his own

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    Default Re: Who did better agaisnt Floyd?

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?
    are you seriously that dense? ummm i'm not even gonna bother with you Julius cause you do the same fucking thing time and time again, you nit pick bits of info trying to build up a strong case for Manny, yet when someone knocks it down, using the same info you provided you pull in random bits of bullshit, you said it yourself you're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao nuttlover, to each his own
    now your really make shit up, when did i say i was not a boxing fan?

    And between me and you who mention pac first? Yea exactly stfu.

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?
    are you seriously that dense? ummm i'm not even gonna bother with you Julius cause you do the same fucking thing time and time again, you nit pick bits of info trying to build up a strong case for Manny, yet when someone knocks it down, using the same info you provided you pull in random bits of bullshit, you said it yourself you're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao nuttlover, to each his own
    now your really make shit up, when did i say i was not a boxing fan?

    And between me and you who mention pac first? Yea exactly stfu.
    you admitted to not having seen one of the biggest fights of the year (Mayweather/Mosley) and call any strategic fight "boring", only post on here whenever something goes on including Manny, such as his win over Margacheato and ummm obviously now that Marquez and Mosley are the two front runners to face Pacquiao (what a shock they're also Mayweather's last two opponents ), you try to hide your motives behind this thread but as always you're transparent as ever

    i can see it now, your next couple posts will be the infamous "oh well you're a hater" posts again...

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
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    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?
    are you seriously that dense? ummm i'm not even gonna bother with you Julius cause you do the same fucking thing time and time again, you nit pick bits of info trying to build up a strong case for Manny, yet when someone knocks it down, using the same info you provided you pull in random bits of bullshit, you said it yourself you're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao nuttlover, to each his own
    now your really make shit up, when did i say i was not a boxing fan?

    And between me and you who mention pac first? Yea exactly stfu.
    you admitted to not having seen one of the biggest fights of the year (Mayweather/Mosley) and call any strategic fight "boring", only post on here whenever something goes on including Manny, such as his win over Margacheato and ummm obviously now that Marquez and Mosley are the two front runners to face Pacquiao (what a shock they're also Mayweather's last two opponents ), you try to hide your motives behind this thread but as always you're transparent as ever

    i can see it now, your next couple posts will be the infamous "oh well you're a hater" posts again...
    You're wrong again and again you make more shit up.

    This is my next post to you which is simple....you're an idiot! Remind me to ignore you and treat you like Milmascas.

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    juanma marquez would have given ricky hatton a nice boxing lesson like he gave katsidis and stopped him late as well.
    I love Katsidis but Ricky Hatton did make Koysta quit. I dont know about JMM being able to school ricky and stop him at 140. JMM has never even fought at that weight.
    if Pacquiao was able to counter Hatton the way he did, Marquez would have done it just the same, only difference is he would have taken his time doing it and stopped Hatton a bit later around the 8th or 9th, no doubt in my mind
    thats if JMM is himself at 140. If his timing is off and he is slowed by the extra weight, ricky could bully him for 12 rounds.
    ummm did you not watch the Katsidis fight? Marquez was at 145 lbs on fight night, he didn't look any slower and his timing was definitely not off, he would wreck Hatton
    Actually you are right I forgot JMM did weigh in at 145, therfor he shouldnt have any problem leaving 135 and fighting at 140.

    What I am trying to tell you is Hatton may look shit now but Katsidis and Juan Diaz are a level below Ricky and the fact that Ricky is bigger and stronger.

    JMM whooped Diaz and Katsidis that doesn't mean he'll do the same to Hatton. Different animal Ricky is/was.
    and he did it effortlessly...at 37, Hatton was countered all night by a guy who's not a counter puncher in Pacquiao, Marquez is probably THE BEST counter puncher alive today, he would catch Hatton and counter him all night, he has a sturdy enough chin to take Hatton's shots, and he has the uppercut which Hatton has always been open for, it's not even in theory, Marquez would destroy Hatton, and yea he already released a statement saying he'd go all the way up to 147 to fight Pacquiao so he's not the one holding up a possible fight, that'd be Manny who's looking to fight Floyd's leftovers once again
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    I think Roach will pit Khan with JMM after the Maidana fight. Hopefully JMM won't duck him again.
    Khan is finally fighting Maidana basically cause he had no other choice (well unless he wanted to sit out and wait till after Alexander/Bradley), Marquez has never ducked anyone, and if anyone would be the coward it'd be Khan for looking to fight a smaller guy in Marquez (or Morales as he and Roach were looking for) instead of guys like Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, or anyone at 140 or above
    Its funny cause your theory is that JMM is a better counter puncher then pac so that means JMM will beat hatton too. Well Floyd is a better counter puncher then all and even him didnt have such an easy time with Hatton before he did stop Hatton. We saw JMM fight above 135 once, granted it was against the best boxer (floyd) but he did not look as good. Your telling me JMM would go up to 140 and treat Hatton like he treated Diaz and Katsidis. Easy for you to say but would not be easy for JMM to do. How about we wait and see if JMM fight guys above 135 first.
    Mayweather also fought Hatton when he was undefeated, and Mayweather is a defensive fighter so obviously he wasn't going to go in there balls to the wall trying to get the KO, if you wanna try and pull that shit, than in theory Mayweather should have no problem with Pacquiao seeing how Manny has never clearly beaten Marquez (in fact Pacquiao should be 0-2 against JMM) and Mayweather beat him effortlessly, he could have stopped him at any point by from round 3 onwards and didn't for God knows what reason, styles make fights, and it's a bit obvious that Hatton's style is made perfectly for Marquez, it's a guy who now just comes forward with little head movement and doesn't bother putting his shots together, it's not rocket science, Marquez would slaughter him
    wow you're relentless, how often are you right with your prediction for you to be so assure of who would win. Specially the fact that JMM has not proven himself above 135. We are likely talking about two different Hatton. I am talking about the Hatton before he retired. Todays Hatton is shitty, he wont even make 140 again.

    You mention that Floyd would do better against Pac since JMM did so well against Pac. You are totally missing the fkxcing point! JMM as good as he is has not proven himself above 135 and you are saying he would of beaten the lineal championg Ricky Hatton at 140!!!!?

    Do you also think JMM can go up above 140 and dominate Cotto, up to 147 and dominate Clottey, up to 150 and dominate Margarito just because he did so well against Pac and Pac had done it?

    Do you also think Pac has no chance of winning against Floyd because when JMM fought Floyd at 144 JMM had zero chance in winning, so I guess everyone should think Pac has zero chance against floyd too right genious?
    are you seriously that dense? ummm i'm not even gonna bother with you Julius cause you do the same fucking thing time and time again, you nit pick bits of info trying to build up a strong case for Manny, yet when someone knocks it down, using the same info you provided you pull in random bits of bullshit, you said it yourself you're not a boxing fan, you're a Pacquiao nuttlover, to each his own
    now your really make shit up, when did i say i was not a boxing fan?

    And between me and you who mention pac first? Yea exactly stfu.
    you admitted to not having seen one of the biggest fights of the year (Mayweather/Mosley) and call any strategic fight "boring", only post on here whenever something goes on including Manny, such as his win over Margacheato and ummm obviously now that Marquez and Mosley are the two front runners to face Pacquiao (what a shock they're also Mayweather's last two opponents ), you try to hide your motives behind this thread but as always you're transparent as ever

    i can see it now, your next couple posts will be the infamous "oh well you're a hater" posts again...
    You're wrong again and again you make more shit up.

    This is my next post to you which is simple....you're an idiot! Remind me to ignore you and treat you like Milmascas.
    do whatever you want son lol but you're the one who's his counterpart on this forum

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