Ha! Pacquiao To Face Winner of Margarito/Cotto 2

[Dizaster]

I imagine this is just a made up story much the same as when Floyd was said to be considering fighting Matthew Hatton a last year.

The trouble for Manny is that aside from Floyd, there aren't really any challengers out there for him.

Berto, argue some, is not ready, Mosley according to the hardcore is done. Marquez is fighting two weight classes below and guys like Martinez and Williams are simply far too big to be realistic fights.

I'd most of all like him to fight Andre Berto if he can't get Floyd next. Or Timothy Bradley. Those two guys are young, unbeaten fighters and would make for exciting fights.

I still don't think he will get credit for fighting either from those on here who hate him, but they represent the best opposition from a competitive fight point of view imo.

Whether they make the most sense financially though I don't know.

Yeah that's the whole problem.. F'kn Arum knows he only has his cash cow for the next 3 years max and he wants maximum $$ for his efforts... Which will mean, if his plans go ahead, Pac will be remembered for being on the edge of complete super stardom and because one single man in Floyd wouldn't come to the table, he fought a bunch of meaningless fights for the money.....

Just stupid...

Whether you would use the word "protected" or not, do we really think Arum would put Pac up against someone like Bradley or Berto, who may not bring in as much PPV? Well f'k that, I believe they will bring in the same or more than a Pac v Margarito/Cotto II.....

Arum has his head up his ass thinking of his tiny little stable of 4 fighters as the be all and end all of the universe... Guess what, Jaws 4 was a bad idea, just because one time people watched the first bit, doesn't just mean you do it all over again to make the money...
But if money is all he cares about, fine, try to convince us all that Pac vs Cotto is as interesting to the rest of the world as it obviously is in Arum's head...

Promoters ruining boxing.... It is just a slight step below Judges ruining boxing.. And a step up from Refs ruining boxing....

Either way, give Pac his three years of legacy.... Not 3 years of lining Arum's pockets fighting meaningless fights...

Even as a fan, I think this sh!t stinks..... I won't agree with the word "Fraud" that mascara used.. Pac is still the best fighter going around and an ATG... But for f'k sake he's been around long enough and is at the top of the sport to the point he can dictate weights for other fighters and for their title belts,,,, then he can surely tell a big fat prick like Arum that he wants to fight someone who may pose a challenge and something new and interesting to face, for the love of god damn boxing for one.....

So I agree with everything pretty much everyone has said...

[Kev]

I imagine this is just a made up story much the same as when Floyd was said to be considering fighting Matthew Hatton a last year.

The trouble for Manny is that aside from Floyd, there aren't really any challengers out there for him.

Berto, argue some, is not ready, Mosley according to the hardcore is done. Marquez is fighting two weight classes below and guys like Martinez and Williams are simply far too big to be realistic fights.

I'd most of all like him to fight Andre Berto if he can't get Floyd next. Or Timothy Bradley. Those two guys are young, unbeaten fighters and would make for exciting fights.

I still don't think he will get credit for fighting either from those on here who hate him, but they represent the best opposition from a competitive fight point of view imo.

Whether they make the most sense financially though I don't know.

Yeah that's the whole problem.. F'kn Arum knows he only has his cash cow for the next 3 years max and he wants maximum $$ for his efforts... Which will mean, if his plans go ahead, Pac will be remembered for being on the edge of complete super stardom and because one single man in Floyd wouldn't come to the table, he fought a bunch of meaningless fights for the money.....

Just stupid...

Whether you would use the word "protected" or not, do we really think Arum would put Pac up against someone like Bradley or Berto, who may not bring in as much PPV? Well f'k that, I believe they will bring in the same or more than a Pac v Margarito/Cotto II.....

Arum has his head up his ass thinking of his tiny little stable of 4 fighters as the be all and end all of the universe... Guess what, Jaws 4 was a bad idea, just because one time people watched the first bit, doesn't just mean you do it all over again to make the money...
But if money is all he cares about, fine, try to convince us all that Pac vs Cotto is as interesting to the rest of the world as it obviously is in Arum's head...

Promoters ruining boxing.... It is just a slight step below Judges ruining boxing.. And a step up from Refs ruining boxing....

Either way, give Pac his three years of legacy.... Not 3 years of lining Arum's pockets fighting meaningless fights...

Even as a fan, I think this sh!t stinks..... I won't agree with the word "Fraud" that mascara used.. Pac is still the best fighter going around and an ATG... But for f'k sake he's been around long enough and is at the top of the sport to the point he can dictate weights for other fighters and for their title belts,,,, then he can surely tell a big fat prick like Arum that he wants to fight someone who may pose a challenge and something new and interesting to face, for the love of god damn boxing for one.....

So I agree with everyone else people have said...

I don't blame Arum or Manny for not fighting the likes of Berto and Bradley just yet. Right now he can make more money against more established names in fights that will probably sell more on PPV.

The onus is on guys like Berto and Bradley to win breakout fights that put them into the mainstream.

A boxers career is only a brief one and every fighter wants to maximise his earning potential.

I'm pleased that Shane will maybe get another last big payday, he's been a great boxing servant and deserves to go out with some big fights. I also thought he beat Mora by at least a couple rounds, as did the entire HBO team. And say you want about Mosley's stamina being shot, but he was all heart against Mora in the championship rounds, taking the fight to the bigger guy and he should have won that fight.

As much malinged as Mora is, I don't think he is an easy night's work for a smaller fighter coming up either.

I think he would give a decent (albiet rather ugly and negative) account of himself against virtually anybody from 154 down. He's hard to look good against, and I don't see even guys like Floyd or Manny blowing him out.

Mosley picked a rather stupid opponent to look good against in his comeback fight, and was then very unlucky with the judging imo.

A Mosley Pacquaio fight is far from a bad matchup.

[Dizaster]

I imagine this is just a made up story much the same as when Floyd was said to be considering fighting Matthew Hatton a last year.

The trouble for Manny is that aside from Floyd, there aren't really any challengers out there for him.

Berto, argue some, is not ready, Mosley according to the hardcore is done. Marquez is fighting two weight classes below and guys like Martinez and Williams are simply far too big to be realistic fights.

I'd most of all like him to fight Andre Berto if he can't get Floyd next. Or Timothy Bradley. Those two guys are young, unbeaten fighters and would make for exciting fights.

I still don't think he will get credit for fighting either from those on here who hate him, but they represent the best opposition from a competitive fight point of view imo.

Whether they make the most sense financially though I don't know.

Yeah that's the whole problem.. F'kn Arum knows he only has his cash cow for the next 3 years max and he wants maximum $$ for his efforts... Which will mean, if his plans go ahead, Pac will be remembered for being on the edge of complete super stardom and because one single man in Floyd wouldn't come to the table, he fought a bunch of meaningless fights for the money.....

Just stupid...

Whether you would use the word "protected" or not, do we really think Arum would put Pac up against someone like Bradley or Berto, who may not bring in as much PPV? Well f'k that, I believe they will bring in the same or more than a Pac v Margarito/Cotto II.....

Arum has his head up his ass thinking of his tiny little stable of 4 fighters as the be all and end all of the universe... Guess what, Jaws 4 was a bad idea, just because one time people watched the first bit, doesn't just mean you do it all over again to make the money...
But if money is all he cares about, fine, try to convince us all that Pac vs Cotto is as interesting to the rest of the world as it obviously is in Arum's head...

Promoters ruining boxing.... It is just a slight step below Judges ruining boxing.. And a step up from Refs ruining boxing....

Either way, give Pac his three years of legacy.... Not 3 years of lining Arum's pockets fighting meaningless fights...

Even as a fan, I think this sh!t stinks..... I won't agree with the word "Fraud" that mascara used.. Pac is still the best fighter going around and an ATG... But for f'k sake he's been around long enough and is at the top of the sport to the point he can dictate weights for other fighters and for their title belts,,,, then he can surely tell a big fat prick like Arum that he wants to fight someone who may pose a challenge and something new and interesting to face, for the love of god damn boxing for one.....

So I agree with everyone else people have said...

I don't blame Arum or Manny for not fighting the likes of Berto and Bradley just yet. Right now he can make more money against more established names in fights that will probably sell more on PPV.

The onus is on guys like Berto and Bradley to win breakout fights that put them into the mainstream.

A boxers career is only a brief one and every fighter wants to maximise his earning potential.

I'm pleased that Shane will maybe get another last big payday, he's been a great boxing servant and deserves to go out with some big fights. I also thought he beat Mora by at least a couple rounds, as did the entire HBO team. And say you want about Mosley's stamina being shot, but he was all heart against Mora in the championship rounds, taking the fight to the bigger guy and he should have won that fight.

As much malinged as Mora is, I don't think he is an easy night's work for a smaller fighter coming up either.

I think he would give a decent (albiet rather ugly and negative) account of himself against virtually anybody from 154 down. He's hard to look good against, and I don't see even guys like Floyd or Manny blowing him out.

Mosley picked a rather stupid opponent to look good against in his comeback fight, and was then very unlucky with the judging imo.

A Mosley Pacquaio fight is far from a bad matchup.

Pac vs Mosley is a MUCH better fight than Margarito/Cotto... At least it's something new... And Mosley aside from looking bad against Mayweather (who hasn't), is still a decent fighter with good attributes.... I think Manny will destroy him, but anything other than Cotto or Margarito 2 is a pass for me in that respect...

There is just no excuse IMO for selling a second Cotto or Margarito fight when Pac dispatched of both of them so encouragingly the last time around.... Even if Cotto/Margarito have a cracking turn back the clock fight and one of them looks amazing, I still feel like it'll be a fight for the money..... And if it happens Pac may as well have an even shittier training camp to at least make the fight look less one sided, considering it will be taking the place of a more interesting new fight..

[Hornfinger]

HAHAHA Good ol manny....

[TheMacMagician]

Oh dear........ Maybe 2011 is the year when Arum will finally file to be his own boxing organisation and begin manufacturing belts and taking sanction fees from their own fighters.... Ha

[mnmc10]

fast forward to 2011 this plan wont happen at all, same as other stupid plans! a rematch with guys you pretty much beat up to a pulp wont generate much excitement for paying boxing fans.

[Cressa121]

These rematches would do horribly. How can you market a rematch of two such one-sided beatings? I can't imagine anybody being stupid enough to buy into either fight.

[fan johnny]

Oh dear........ Maybe 2011 is the year when Arum will finally file to be his own boxing organisation and begin manufacturing belts and taking sanction fees from their own fighters.... Ha

Ah! Isn't that the UFC model?

[Ant Live]

Arum is a genius!!!

First of all, he's clearing up the biggest mistake Pacman ever made. Saying he's going to fight for 3 more years. Pacman saying that, slowed the push for Mayweather to get into the ring with him.

Secondly, Arum put together possible and legit fights. Fights just to get Mayweather thinking, that possibly, the mega money fight won't happen. The more chances Manny take, the less money will be on the table if Mayweather don't jump soon.

Third, Margarito vs Cotto is legit!!! And might actually happen. Just as a fog! Not as a possible elminator for Pacman. But no one asked, what will Cotto do until then? When was his last fight? He needs to fight soon, if he's going to get in the ring with Margarito again. Sitting for this long then getting back in the ring with the person that maybe took something away from his boxing life, is a bad move.

Fourth, Arum is going to build up these potential future opponents without saying anything. He's going to make Berto, Bradley, Alexander, Williams, Martinez, JMM and even Mayweather fight each other so they can raise their stock and elminate potential opponents. Bigger pay days.

Finally, Roach is also doing the hand picking. Bradley and Alexander is not being mention because, Roach have Khan in the same division. Raising his on stock in the boxing world. Freddie also have Jcc Jr and Vanes Martirosyan(I think)in his camp. So Martinez and Cotto is not going to happen neither.

All that said, if Mayweather fight Pacman, all the above money will be made in one night.

This is a business!!! Arum and Roach is just playing their cards right.

Respect!!!

P.S.
1. Pacman will sign to fight Mosley before Floyd's court thing is over.
2. Floyd will fight Cotto or the winer of Bradley vs Alexander at 147. Perferrably the winner of Bradley vs Alexander.
3. If Floyd fights Cotto, Berto vs the winner of Bradley vs Alexander.
4. Jcc Jr will fight Cotto. Winner fight Margarito
5. Freddie Roach(Vanes) will win by points over Manny Steward(K-9) for an 154 title. Then Williams will make another run at Pacman.

[:::PSL:::]

It aint happening.

Pac already fucked them both up.

[MMASUX]

Might as well throw Clottey's name in the mix too

[No Contest]

Arum is a genius!!!

First of all, he's clearing up the biggest mistake Pacman ever made. Saying he's going to fight for 3 more years. Pacman saying that, slowed the push for Mayweather to get into the ring with him.

Secondly, Arum put together possible and legit fights. Fights just to get Mayweather thinking, that possibly, the mega money fight won't happen. The more chances Manny take, the less money will be on the table if Mayweather don't jump soon.

Third, Margarito vs Cotto is legit!!! And might actually happen. Just as a fog! Not as a possible elminator for Pacman. But no one asked, what will Cotto do until then? When was his last fight? He needs to fight soon, if he's going to get in the ring with Margarito again. Sitting for this long then getting back in the ring with the person that maybe took something away from his boxing life, is a bad move.

Fourth, Arum is going to build up these potential future opponents without saying anything. He's going to make Berto, Bradley, Alexander, Williams, Martinez, JMM and even Mayweather fight each other so they can raise their stock and elminate potential opponents. Bigger pay days.

Finally, Roach is also doing the hand picking. Bradley and Alexander is not being mention because, Roach have Khan in the same division. Raising his on stock in the boxing world. Freddie also have Jcc Jr and Vanes Martirosyan(I think)in his camp. So Martinez and Cotto is not going to happen neither.

All that said, if Mayweather fight Pacman, all the above money will be made in one night.

This is a business!!! Arum and Roach is just playing their cards right.

Respect!!!

P.S.
1. Pacman will sign to fight Mosley before Floyd's court thing is over.
2. Floyd will fight Cotto or the winer of Bradley vs Alexander at 147. Perferrably the winner of Bradley vs Alexander.
3. If Floyd fights Cotto, Berto vs the winner of Bradley vs Alexander.
4. Jcc Jr will fight Cotto. Winner fight Margarito
5. Freddie Roach(Vanes) will win by points over Manny Steward(K-9) for an 154 title. Then Williams will make another run at Pacman.

That was my strat, play hard to get. IMO Pac doesnt need Mayweather at all, he's got his legit legacy of fighting guys his own size and even larger.

[TitoFan]

I think Cotto has a better chance against Pacquiao than would Margarito a second time around. Cotto screwed himself big time by going with Joe "WTF?" Santiago in his corner before getting himself a REAL professional. Cotto was jabbing Manny well in the first few rounds, before deciding to go toe-to-toe with Pac and getting hit 5 times for every one he hit Manny with. Bad strategy. Emmanuel would fix these bad game plans. Cotto might still not win, but he'd be more competitive than would Margarito.

That being said, I also realize there's better fights for Pac out there, such as Berto. I'd give anything to watch Manny dismantle Berto.