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    Default Re: Why would Marquez be a more viable opponent than Mosley for Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Do you think Marquez vs. Pacquiao at 147 would be more interesting?
    Definitely. Marquez doesn't have to weigh in at 147. He can weigh in at around 138lb ish. Pacquiao will weigh in at around 147lbs. When they re-hydrate, Pacquiao would probably only be around 150lbs and Marquez would be around 145-147lbs. I don't think it will make a tonne of difference.

    It's not his size and strength that are dangerous to Pacquiao. It's his all round ability. It would be much more exciting than Pacquiao - Mosley.
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    Default Re: Why would Marquez be a more viable opponent than Mosley for Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Do you think Marquez vs. Pacquiao at 147 would be more interesting?
    Definitely. Marquez doesn't have to weigh in at 147. He can weigh in at around 138lb ish. Pacquiao will weigh in at around 147lbs. When they re-hydrate, Pacquiao would probably only be around 150lbs and Marquez would be around 145-147lbs. I don't think it will make a tonne of difference.

    It's not his size and strength that are dangerous to Pacquiao. It's his all round ability. It would be much more exciting than Pacquiao - Mosley.
    I'm just not sure. I'm not convinced Marquez is as effective above 135 and I'm not convinced Mosley isn't completely passed it at this point in his career. That is why I think a Bradley fight gives Pacquiao the most credibility.

    If you were Marquez and you wanted the fight with Pacquiao so badly, and Pacquiao is now fighting at 147 and 150 pounds, what would you do put yourself in the best possible position to get the fight? I would challenge a big name at 140 or 147 and then give Pacquiao no excuses. What does Marquez do? He fights Kastidis at 135. It makes me wonder how comfortable Marquez really is above 135. If I were him, I'd be championing to fight the winner of the Bradley/Alexander or Maidana/Khan fight or Shane Mosley himself.

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    Default Re: Why would Marquez be a more viable opponent than Mosley for Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Do you think Marquez vs. Pacquiao at 147 would be more interesting?
    Definitely. Marquez doesn't have to weigh in at 147. He can weigh in at around 138lb ish. Pacquiao will weigh in at around 147lbs. When they re-hydrate, Pacquiao would probably only be around 150lbs and Marquez would be around 145-147lbs. I don't think it will make a tonne of difference.

    It's not his size and strength that are dangerous to Pacquiao. It's his all round ability. It would be much more exciting than Pacquiao - Mosley.
    I'm just not sure. I'm not convinced Marquez is as effective above 135 and I'm not convinced Mosley isn't completely passed it at this point in his career. That is why I think a Bradley fight gives Pacquiao the most credibility.

    If you were Marquez and you wanted the fight with Pacquiao so badly, and Pacquiao is now fighting at 147 and 150 pounds, what would you do put yourself in the best possible position to get the fight? I would challenge a big name at 140 or 147 and then give Pacquiao no excuses. What does Marquez do? He fights Kastidis at 135. It makes me wonder how comfortable Marquez really is above 135. If I were him, I'd be championing to fight the winner of the Bradley/Alexander or Maidana/Khan fight or Shane Mosley himself.
    Is it your logic or are you just thinking superficial here? I don't get it. How does it make any difference what weight class they set the fight at? They will both step into the ring at their fighting weight. Their weight will be pretty close to the weight they fought at as super featherweights. The only difference I see is they don't have to dehydrate to make weight. Wouldn't it be more comfortable for both fighters to come in at their natural fighting weight than to have to dehydrate to make a lower weight?

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    TBH, I agree with everything you just said... Except the 135 part.

    Pac is different animal now. But I don't think you'll be seeing him at 135 ever again. I mean of course time will tell but you'll see

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    Default Re: Why would Marquez be a more viable opponent than Mosley for Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch View Post
    TBH, I agree with everything you just said... Except the 135 part.

    Pac is different animal now. But I don't think you'll be seeing him at 135 ever again. I mean of course time will tell but you'll see
    I kinda agree with Taeth. I think Pacquiao has all the size and speed advantages at 135. I don't see how optimal weight equates to making weight:

    "*Marquez' optimal weight is probably 135(ish)" ring weight 144
    "*Pacquiao's optimal weight is now 144(ish)" ring weight 148

    Pacquiao is 4 lbs north of Marquez. If age is a factor making weight, I don't see how 135 favors Marquez.

    Pacquiao says he is different (24/7) since he last fought Marquez because he now studies fighters tapes and forms a fight plan. His performance in the ring backups that statement.

    I don't think we'll see him at 135 either, but not because he can't make the weight. I think we don't see him there because the is no more money incentive for him to be there than there is for him to be at 147. Why should he cut his weight if he doesn't have to?

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