Wikileaks? Are you for or against what they are doing?

[Gandalf]

Well I think that Assange is probably a completely arrogant self important wankstain who enjoys the feeling of power that he has. He is doing what he is doing with no sense of respect or reponsibility considering the nature of the documents he is handling.

It's all about him being in control and the grandoise feeling of power that he weilds.

As you can imagine I think he is a tosser.

Ironically his revelations have only served to benefit America by demonstrating, as you say above that American involvement in the middle east, and the removal of Iran is actively supported, and even begged for by much of the Arab world.

The legacy of his anti American revelations will likely be that he provided America with a huge shot in the arm in terms of his evidence that an invasion of Iran is wanted by the Arab community at large, and that they regard them as the real threat in the Middle East, more so than Israel.

I think the Americans and the Jews will be loving those revelations.


The rest of the revelations are all fairly mundane and trivial saying nothing much that tabloid papers haven't already said. Aside from America wanting to spy on leading EU ministers (which I think is actually a good idea, I don't trust those cunts at all) I think America's secret side came across as pretty benign.

Assinge will probaly end up serving life in prison, and America will use his revelations to start their next war, without needing to convince anyone as well all know the Arabs hate the Iranians and fear them as much as we do.

The Arabs are more afraid of Israel, and want them to invade Iran. who'd have thunk it!

Absolutely not.

The documents show that dictators want rid of Iran. And we know that America wants it too. So what? So we should have listened to Hitler and bowed down to his wishes against the wishes of the general populations? So America should listen to dictatorships such as those from Saudi Arabia? Possibly the worst country in that region in terms of respecting human rights and also the country where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from? Why should America be so close with them and also listening to their opinions?

Iran is no threat to the region as most of the Arab populations of those countries attest to believing. In fact as has been shown, most of those people believe Israel and America to be the biggest threats to the region. And historical facts support their viewpoints.

These releases make Israel look awful and America too. But what is even worse is that on the news yesterday I see that America has given up on trying to bribe Israel with giving up on the building of illegal settlements. Now why should America even need to be bribing Israel on something that is a clear violation of international law?

Bilbo, you have an agenda. That agenda is to oppose me and that is fair enough. But it is beyond me why you would want to oppose someone whose agenda is nothing but moral. For example, how do you validate the continued building of settlements that are clearly illegal? Is that okay because it is Israel carrying out the construction? I don't get why you would defend this? Only a nasty person could support such a thing.

[Kev]

Well I think that Assange is probably a completely arrogant self important wankstain who enjoys the feeling of power that he has. He is doing what he is doing with no sense of respect or reponsibility considering the nature of the documents he is handling.

It's all about him being in control and the grandoise feeling of power that he weilds.

As you can imagine I think he is a tosser.

Ironically his revelations have only served to benefit America by demonstrating, as you say above that American involvement in the middle east, and the removal of Iran is actively supported, and even begged for by much of the Arab world.

The legacy of his anti American revelations will likely be that he provided America with a huge shot in the arm in terms of his evidence that an invasion of Iran is wanted by the Arab community at large, and that they regard them as the real threat in the Middle East, more so than Israel.

I think the Americans and the Jews will be loving those revelations.


The rest of the revelations are all fairly mundane and trivial saying nothing much that tabloid papers haven't already said. Aside from America wanting to spy on leading EU ministers (which I think is actually a good idea, I don't trust those cunts at all) I think America's secret side came across as pretty benign.

Assinge will probaly end up serving life in prison, and America will use his revelations to start their next war, without needing to convince anyone as well all know the Arabs hate the Iranians and fear them as much as we do.

The Arabs are more afraid of Israel, and want them to invade Iran. who'd have thunk it!

Absolutely not.

The documents show that dictators want rid of Iran. And we know that America wants it too. So what? So we should have listened to Hitler and bowed down to his wishes against the wishes of the general populations? So America should listen to dictatorships such as those from Saudi Arabia? Possibly the worst country in that region in terms of respecting human rights and also the country where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from? Why should America be so close with them and also listening to their opinions?

Iran is no threat to the region as most of the Arab populations of those countries attest to believing. In fact as has been shown, most of those people believe Israel and America to be the biggest threats to the region. And historical facts support their viewpoints.

These releases make Israel look awful and America too. But what is even worse is that on the news yesterday I see that America has given up on trying to bribe Israel with giving up on the building of illegal settlements. Now why should America even need to be bribing Israel on something that is a clear violation of international law?

Bilbo, you have an agenda. That agenda is to oppose me and that is fair enough. But it is beyond me why you would want to oppose someone whose agenda is nothing but moral. For example, how do you validate the continued building of settlements that are clearly illegal? Is that okay because it is Israel carrying out the construction? I don't get why you would defend this? Only a nasty person could support such a thing.

haha that made me laugh. Like there are so many democracies in the Arab world How do they make Israel look awful exactly?

[Kev]

I'm off out now Miles mate but I am genuinely interested as to how you think these revelations have made America look bad?

I think most reports I have seen have been very positive about how America acts in secret.

And the fact that even the Arabs themselves are more concerned about Iran than Israel is a massive blow to your pro Chomsky Finkelstein Jew hating allies.

Thanks to Assange America now have the backing of the Arab world to sort out the growing Iranian menace. There were no great revelations against America at all. No sinister plots, no massive corruption or secret assassinations, tortures, kidnaps etc.

It was mostly rather bland opinion pieces on presidents and persons that are mostly shared by the world at large.

Gordon Brown was a useless prime minister, Britains obsession with being Americas best friend was pathetic, Sarkozy is an arrogant fool, Angela Merkel is a risk avoider, nothing really to shock the world, or even disagree with.

And I've not heard anything bad about Israel in this at all, apart from that they are no longer regarded as the biggest threat in the desert by the Arabs.