Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch View Post
Johnny, I'll put it this way.

Both fighters optimal weights have changed (inevitably gone up) over the years but it's the performances the two have put on that show that while one is basically growing old, the other is growing stronger.

Also, Pacquiao also appears to be naturally capable (and comfortable) at fighting at a higher weight.

*Marquez' optimal weight is probably 135(ish)
*Pacquiao's optimal weight is now 144(ish)

With Pacquiao being Pacquiao I can't see the fight being made below 144. So IMO that's bad news for Marquez, who's fights in a way that see's experience prevail. However, foor all his mastery, it's not like guys like Katsidis and Diaz haven't been able to get to him. Even a shot Cassamayor was beating him before he got stopped.

I understand that a lot of people could say that Manny looks a lot better facing these guys who just come marching forward but you have to just look at the way he pulverised Miguel Cotto to see how that argument is made redundant.

Manny is much fresher, even moreso at the higher weights. (above 135). It would be WORSE than the Cotto beat down. The way I see it, Marquez speed is becoming laborious. Manny is in overdrive.

It would be horrible to watch I can't stress enough how much I REALLY do no want this fight to happen
I disagree I think Manny's best weight would probably be lightweight, he wouldn't have to cut hard and his speed would still be better than anyone's. Honestly at this point after re-watching older Pacquiao fights, I think he's moved beyond Marquez's level of skill. The problem with Pacquiao when he was lighter is he would start throwing punches so far away from his opponent, and it would hamper his combinations and fluidity. I think now that he uses footwork more effectively, and he has a better idea of timing and range that he would be too good for Marquez. THe difference between the first and second fight is very clear. Even in the rounds MArquez was winning Manny was doing a lot better in the second fight, and he actually has continued to improve. I think having guys like Amir Khan around have really helped Pacquiao develop his boxing skills as opposed to just his fighting skills which he used to only have.