Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
And Lyle US party politics is irrelevant to this debate. The only reason that the Republicans have come back is because Obama is a fraud. He has always been a corporate shill whence no public option for health care, huge bail outs for the financial sector, expansion of the war and a watered down financial reform bill. People are dissapointed and their jobs haven't come back, but the only alternative are the Republicans. It will get much worse if they get into power. There is no voting alternative for the American people. You either vote for this party of big business or that one. There is no party looking out for ordinary people.
...is there a party anywhere that is based on "looking out for ordinary people"? If there is I can bet you it isn't successful because #1 ordinary people don't carry enough weight to get make deals and get things done politically and #2 ordinary people don't stay ordinary when they have power over other people (be they richer or poorer)....it's just a fact of life and you not noticing that is shocking, surely you're smart enought o see that.