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    Jeep Cherokee is a good vehicle but not sure I'd enter it in Nascar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Jeep Cherokee is a good vehicle but not sure I'd enter it in Nascar.
    Outside of the savage KO Sergio laid on Williams, I don't think there's much in his past that shows me that Andy Lee is in too much danger.

    Andy Lee's level of competition is poor, but he's young, Sergio is 35, stranger things have happened. I just want Andy to give a good account of himself, I think he can last 12 with Sergio, I doubt Andy wins, but I'm hoping they (Andy and Manny) find a way to get it done.

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    Also was pretty surprised to find out kelly is only 28, I was sure he was like 27 when he fought for the title, so he's definitely got the time as long as he straightens out his life and doesn't fall into a complete downward spiral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Jeep Cherokee is a good vehicle but not sure I'd enter it in Nascar.
    Outside of the savage KO Sergio laid on Williams, I don't think there's much in his past that shows me that Andy Lee is in too much danger.

    Andy Lee's level of competition is poor, but he's young, Sergio is 35, stranger things have happened. I just want Andy to give a good account of himself, I think he can last 12 with Sergio, I doubt Andy wins, but I'm hoping they (Andy and Manny) find a way to get it done.
    I don't think it's a bad move either. Lee has the potential and has to step it up sonner or later so they can find out if it is just potential or if he has what it takes. Andre Ward didn't do alot before Miranda or Kessler but many now consider him to be the best in the Super-Middleweight division. I think it'll be a step too soon, but I thought that with Ward against Kessler and I couldn't have been more wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Jeep Cherokee is a good vehicle but not sure I'd enter it in Nascar.
    Outside of the savage KO Sergio laid on Williams, I don't think there's much in his past that shows me that Andy Lee is in too much danger.

    Andy Lee's level of competition is poor, but he's young, Sergio is 35, stranger things have happened. I just want Andy to give a good account of himself, I think he can last 12 with Sergio, I doubt Andy wins, but I'm hoping they (Andy and Manny) find a way to get it done.
    Thats why didn't go with monster truck rally. Not sure Martinez would savage him so much as really outclass him. Think Lee gets peppered & smacked up late ala Pavlik but at least Kelly had that supposed magic eraser in power. It's really a have nothing to lose fight for Lee. Alot of guys need this, stop building, waiting, whistling and throw them in, sink or swim type fight. Martinez also has to wonder what does he gain except a network date. At 35 make every outing a biggie.

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    I actually like to see some young prospects tested and maybe get a few losses before initial success, boxing needs to get away from the one loss is the end of your career in the prime time, mentality its been in. I mean Paul Williams just got knocked out in the first round, about 7 years ago when it was all about undefeated streaks we wouldnt see Williams back for a while. But we may see him back in a few months and for a title, that's what boxing is becoming, it's just gonna be a great trilogy, and a knockout in 2 isn't going to end that he is a world title challenger and champion at 154 still I believe.
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    I actually like to see some young prospects tested and maybe get a few losses before initial success, boxing needs to get away from the one loss is the end of your career in the prime time, mentality its been in. I mean Paul Williams just got knocked out in the first round, about 7 years ago when it was all about undefeated streaks we wouldnt see Williams back for a while. But we may see him back in a few months and for a title, that's what boxing is becoming, it's just gonna be a great trilogy, and a knockout in 2 isn't going to end that he is a world title challenger and champion at 154 still I believe.
    I agree with your premise but Paul is going to have to show me he's fully recovered from that KO. A KO like that can really change a fighter....I hope he comes back strong as ever but I have my doubts until I see him do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    I actually like to see some young prospects tested and maybe get a few losses before initial success, boxing needs to get away from the one loss is the end of your career in the prime time, mentality its been in. I mean Paul Williams just got knocked out in the first round, about 7 years ago when it was all about undefeated streaks we wouldnt see Williams back for a while. But we may see him back in a few months and for a title, that's what boxing is becoming, it's just gonna be a great trilogy, and a knockout in 2 isn't going to end that he is a world title challenger and champion at 154 still I believe.
    I agree with your premise but Paul is going to have to show me he's fully recovered from that KO. A KO like that can really change a fighter....I hope he comes back strong as ever but I have my doubts until I see him do it.
    Im certainly with you on that. I cant name a fighter in my recent history that got sparked lights out and then picked himself up and resumed superstardom?

    Is that better than say getting pummeled like Lacy did for 12 rounds against Calzaghe or is it just as devestating mentally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    I actually like to see some young prospects tested and maybe get a few losses before initial success, boxing needs to get away from the one loss is the end of your career in the prime time, mentality its been in. I mean Paul Williams just got knocked out in the first round, about 7 years ago when it was all about undefeated streaks we wouldnt see Williams back for a while. But we may see him back in a few months and for a title, that's what boxing is becoming, it's just gonna be a great trilogy, and a knockout in 2 isn't going to end that he is a world title challenger and champion at 154 still I believe.
    I agree with your premise but Paul is going to have to show me he's fully recovered from that KO. A KO like that can really change a fighter....I hope he comes back strong as ever but I have my doubts until I see him do it.
    Im certainly with you on that. I cant name a fighter in my recent history that got sparked lights out and then picked himself up and resumed superstardom?

    Is that better than say getting pummeled like Lacy did for 12 rounds against Calzaghe or is it just as devestating mentally?
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    This is a GROSS mismatch, Andy is a good guy and all but he is really just a harder hitting more defensive John Duddy IMO....Sergio has a great chin and has stood up to fighters more skilled then Lee and harder hitting...His only Stoppage loss is to a young Margarito, Even if Lee did win he would not be able to hold the belt very long....Paul Williams will be looking for him, Sturm would outbox him on points easily and AA will be returning to MW and he would look for Lee ASAP and it is a shootout I can not imaging Lee winning.....

    Good kid but not world class yet....His power is what seems to be mentioned every time Lee is discussed but review who he has stopped and it makes you question exactly how hard he does hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    This is a GROSS mismatch, Andy is a good guy and all but he is really just a harder hitting more defensive John Duddy IMO....Sergio has a great chin and has stood up to fighters more skilled then Lee and harder hitting...His only Stoppage loss is to a young Margarito, Even if Lee did win he would not be able to hold the belt very long....Paul Williams will be looking for him, Sturm would outbox him on points easily and AA will be returning to MW and he would look for Lee ASAP and it is a shootout I can not imaging Lee winning.....

    Good kid but not world class yet....His power is what seems to be mentioned every time Lee is discussed but review who he has stopped and it makes you question exactly how hard he does hit
    Daxx how long do you give Sergio against AA at Middle? I think Sergio showboating with his hands at his waist gets him splattered. AA will have the high guard and let Sergio peck away cause lets face it he will have a size advantage and I think Arthur exploding in spurts will have Sergio on his back foot until he gets caught. I'll give him 7-8 rounds until he's stopped

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