Is Shane Mosley really that big of a deal anymore, or is he just a big name??

[bzkfn]

Bob Arum would like you to believe so

I was actually at the Cotto fight. This is some fishing around to bring up this old thread!

[JT Rock]

Bob Arum would like you to believe so

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I was actually at the Cotto fight. This is some fishing around to bring up this old thread!

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Not really, it showed up for related articles in the Mosely PAC thread

[Master]

Amazed even then Shane was considered old and look at what he has done to Marg.

[Gandalf]

Amazed even then Shane was considered old and look at what he has done to Marg.

He did that 3 years ago against a guy who thought Mosley was so done that he didn't need to train properly. Mosley struggled with Cotto and Pac killed him. Pac blinded Margarito on the night and Margarito is still bloodshot to this day. And yet 3 years on and after a loss and a draw Mosley is to turn back time?

I wish and dream it to be so, but I just don't think so.

[miron_lang]

He did that 3 years ago against a guy who thought Mosley was so done that he didn't need to train properly. Mosley struggled with Cotto and Pac killed him. Pac blinded Margarito on the night and Margarito is still bloodshot to this day. And yet 3 years on and after a loss and a draw Mosley is to turn back time?

I wish and dream it to be so, but I just don't think so.

So losing to Floyd and drawing with Mora completely shots down Mosley at the bottom of the ranking according to your eyes Miles?

Would you completely back Berto to beat Mosley?


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Evander Holyfield looks completely shot againts Bowe III and look on how he stopped Tyson twice.

Im positive he'll beat Mayorga again and KTFO Margarito again.

[Gandalf]

Mosley was beaten by Mayweather in such a one-sided fashion though. Mosley was in the fight for two rounds and showed absolutely nothing from that point on. There was no plan B for once Floyd decided to put the pressure on. Totally gassed. I have no idea why Mosley fought Mora, but he looked pretty poor again. He was lethargic and struggled to keep up. I actually thought Mosley deserved the win, but I saw little to suggest that he was still a force. Perhaps if he had stayed at WW and dominated Clottey or done the same to Berto I would be thinking differently, but he didn't. In three years Mosley doesn't have a win to his name and has basically looked poor for two fights on the trot.

It appears to me that he has slipped and the fighters who perform well at the elite level at the age of 40 are the exception rather than the norm. Also those fighters have the fundamentals or at least have adapted their style in some way. Hopkins and Foreman spring readily to mind. Those that didn't really adapt struggle and that goes for the likes of Jones Jr and in this case Mosley. If Mosley isn't able to go 12 hard rounds anymore, then that makes him extremely vulnerable. His defence isn't the best and he hasn't shown a great ability to adapt in fights.

In this sense it is hard to know where to rank Mosley right now. It looks as though he is way beyond his best and that is why he should have stayed at WW to make sure where he was at. To follow a career worst performance with a fight against a runner like Mora was pointless and to then follow that up with the fastest, seemingly most endurable boxer/power puncher is extremely risky. He still hits hard though, but it still took an awful long time to hack a weight drained Margarito down. He needs stamina to check Manny's chin consistently and that is where I see it being a nightmare. Mosley will land, but I'm not sure if he can land enough and then once he tires out, then the buzzsaw begins.

I love Mosley and have always loved watching him fight, so I really hope I am proven totally wrong as I have been in the past. In the past I supported the fighters I sentimentally like and said they will win. In this situation, I am supporting Mosley, but there are no wild claims of possible victory on my part. Manny has become too scary and Mosley too old. Like I say, I hope it doesn't turn out that way, but I am not optimistic.

[Dizaster]

Mosley was beaten by Mayweather in such a one-sided fashion though. Mosley was in the fight for two rounds and showed absolutely nothing from that point on. There was no plan B for once Floyd decided to put the pressure on. Totally gassed. I have no idea why Mosley fought Mora, but he looked pretty poor again. He was lethargic and struggled to keep up. I actually thought Mosley deserved the win, but I saw little to suggest that he was still a force. Perhaps if he had stayed at WW and dominated Clottey or done the same to Berto I would be thinking differently, but he didn't. In three years Mosley doesn't have a win to his name and has basically looked poor for two fights on the trot.

It appears to me that he has slipped and the fighters who perform well at the elite level at the age of 40 are the exception rather than the norm. Also those fighters have the fundamentals or at least have adapted their style in some way. Hopkins and Foreman spring readily to mind. Those that didn't really adapt struggle and that goes for the likes of Jones Jr and in this case Mosley. If Mosley isn't able to go 12 hard rounds anymore, then that makes him extremely vulnerable. His defence isn't the best and he hasn't shown a great ability to adapt in fights.

In this sense it is hard to know where to rank Mosley right now. It looks as though he is way beyond his best and that is why he should have stayed at WW to make sure where he was at. To follow a career worst performance with a fight against a runner like Mora was pointless and to then follow that up with the fastest, seemingly most endurable boxer/power puncher is extremely risky. He still hits hard though, but it still took an awful long time to hack a weight drained Margarito down. He needs stamina to check Manny's chin consistently and that is where I see it being a nightmare. Mosley will land, but I'm not sure if he can land enough and then once he tires out, then the buzzsaw begins.

I love Mosley and have always loved watching him fight, so I really hope I am proven totally wrong as I have been in the past. In the past I supported the fighters I sentimentally like and said they will win. In this situation, I am supporting Mosley, but there are no wild claims of possible victory on my part. Manny has become too scary and Mosley too old. Like I say, I hope it doesn't turn out that way, but I am not optimistic.

I second that entire post..... For whatever assets Mosley HAS kept which people are focusing on, that is all well and good for most of WW, but he's up against Pac who is as dangerous as anyone who has ever walked in the ring at WW since boxing began..... While we all speculate about how much Mosley has slipped since his best days, in perspective, Pac is flawless at the moment and has no weakness which will give Mosley a chance to win....

It's just too tough.... We can argue for Mosley all day long for just about any other fight, but not against Pac...