Andre Berto vs Randall Bailey

[JT Rock]

Can't stand Berto. Have you seen his latest twitter postings at Sugar Shane?

It's kind of hilarious he's like Kid Thunder or something, just really embarrassing in his comments whilst Shane always responds with humour.

He posted a picture of Shane Mosley up with grey hair and beard looking really ancient saying 'I'm going to take a dump whilst looking at pictures of this old man'.

Shane just replied, 'by the time you fight anyone of note we'll all be old'
I hope Shane does well against Manny and then closes out his career by knocking this douche out.

Thats funny. Shanes to classy to call him on it but regardless of excuse, Berto needs to check himself considering he opted out of a made fight with Mosley. What a kook.

Pretty harsh seeing 1/4 to 1/2 of his family was wiped out in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in modern mans history, and he help spear head relief efforts..

[bcollins]

Can't stand Berto. Have you seen his latest twitter postings at Sugar Shane?

It's kind of hilarious he's like Kid Thunder or something, just really embarrassing in his comments whilst Shane always responds with humour.

He posted a picture of Shane Mosley up with grey hair and beard looking really ancient saying 'I'm going to take a dump whilst looking at pictures of this old man'.

Shane just replied, 'by the time you fight anyone of note we'll all be old'
I hope Shane does well against Manny and then closes out his career by knocking this douche out.

Thats funny. Shanes to classy to call him on it but regardless of excuse, Berto needs to check himself considering he opted out of a made fight with Mosley. What a kook.

Pretty harsh seeing 1/4 to 1/2 of his family was wiped out in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in modern mans history, and he help spear head relief efforts..

Yeah - it would be kinda cold not to cut Berto some slack on that one.

[JT Rock]

ESPN.com's division-by-division rankings - ESPN

7. Selcuk Aydin (20-0)

Turkey's Aydin is Berto's mandatory challenger, and the fight is way overdue. If the sides don't make a deal, there will be a purse bid Jan. 11 -- although Berto could give up the belt and pursue a different fight.
Next: TBA.

This is ESPN'S Dan Rafael's scoop in his ranking at Welter, I respect Dan's info and credentials and is preety in the Know how , thats why I posted this info.

The only other named fighter that wasnt busy seemed to be Joshua Clottey, and since someone must have told him he couldnt punch Manny Pac more than 10 times in their fight or he would have been fired by Top Rank So I think they see the Hobo who got hired off the highway to work as the Cavaliers announcer more worthy of a title shot than Clottey

[Spicoli]

Can't stand Berto. Have you seen his latest twitter postings at Sugar Shane?

It's kind of hilarious he's like Kid Thunder or something, just really embarrassing in his comments whilst Shane always responds with humour.

He posted a picture of Shane Mosley up with grey hair and beard looking really ancient saying 'I'm going to take a dump whilst looking at pictures of this old man'.

Shane just replied, 'by the time you fight anyone of note we'll all be old'
I hope Shane does well against Manny and then closes out his career by knocking this douche out.

Thats funny. Shanes to classy to call him on it but regardless of excuse, Berto needs to check himself considering he opted out of a made fight with Mosley. What a kook.

Pretty harsh seeing 1/4 to 1/2 of his family was wiped out in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in modern mans history, and he help spear head relief efforts..

I'd say kook not because he opted out but rather his running on at Mosley, a level he's not began to touch aside from yet to realized potential. Bit of an arm chair quarter back feel to me. Man knows tragedy as do we and others fighters, fair enough. But here I'm looking as a boxing fan before a humanitarian. Some fighters wait an entire career for a mega break out shot like that.

[bcollins]

I bet they could still make the fight - I know Shane's getting old, but he's still a respectable challenge for Berto.

[Majesty]

Can't stand Berto. Have you seen his latest twitter postings at Sugar Shane?

It's kind of hilarious he's like Kid Thunder or something, just really embarrassing in his comments whilst Shane always responds with humour.

He posted a picture of Shane Mosley up with grey hair and beard looking really ancient saying 'I'm going to take a dump whilst looking at pictures of this old man'.

Shane just replied, 'by the time you fight anyone of note we'll all be old'
I hope Shane does well against Manny and then closes out his career by knocking this douche out.

Thats funny. Shanes to classy to call him on it but regardless of excuse, Berto needs to check himself considering he opted out of a made fight with Mosley. What a kook.

Pretty harsh seeing 1/4 to 1/2 of his family was wiped out in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in modern mans history, and he help spear head relief efforts..

I'd say kook not because he opted out but rather his running on at Mosley, a level he's not began to touch aside from yet to realized potential. Bit of an arm chair quarter back feel to me. Man knows tragedy as do we and others fighters, fair enough. But here I'm looking as a boxing fan before a humanitarian. Some fighters wait an entire career for a mega break out shot like that.

Losing half your family in a national tragedy or fighting Shane Mosley with an unclear mind where you could lose because of it and then your family still suffers and the effort is ungiven. I think him going to help was a better decision then trying not to let it bother him and fighting Shane because had he lost, he would have lost a lot more. Let's be honest, Berto has that fight whenever because he is a champion and his name is out there. Some fighters may wait an entire career for a break out shot like that, but they also aren't world champions with their names out there already. Berto was. So when it comes down to helping his family and the area through a national tragedy instead of fighting, I can't hold that against him.

By the way he tweeted that he isn't fighting Bailey and that it is just a rumor.

[Spicoli]

Can't stand Berto. Have you seen his latest twitter postings at Sugar Shane?

It's kind of hilarious he's like Kid Thunder or something, just really embarrassing in his comments whilst Shane always responds with humour.

He posted a picture of Shane Mosley up with grey hair and beard looking really ancient saying 'I'm going to take a dump whilst looking at pictures of this old man'.

Shane just replied, 'by the time you fight anyone of note we'll all be old'
I hope Shane does well against Manny and then closes out his career by knocking this douche out.

Thats funny. Shanes to classy to call him on it but regardless of excuse, Berto needs to check himself considering he opted out of a made fight with Mosley. What a kook.

Pretty harsh seeing 1/4 to 1/2 of his family was wiped out in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in modern mans history, and he help spear head relief efforts..

I'd say kook not because he opted out but rather his running on at Mosley, a level he's not began to touch aside from yet to realized potential. Bit of an arm chair quarter back feel to me. Man knows tragedy as do we and others fighters, fair enough. But here I'm looking as a boxing fan before a humanitarian. Some fighters wait an entire career for a mega break out shot like that.

Losing half your family in a national tragedy or fighting Shane Mosley with an unclear mind where you could lose because of it and then your family still suffers and the effort is ungiven. I think him going to help was a better decision then trying not to let it bother him and fighting Shane because had he lost, he would have lost a lot more. Let's be honest, Berto has that fight whenever because he is a champion and his name is out there. Some fighters may wait an entire career for a break out shot like that, but they also aren't world champions with their names out there already. Berto was. So when it comes down to helping his family and the area through a national tragedy instead of fighting, I can't hold that against him.

By the way he tweeted that he isn't fighting Bailey and that it is just a rumor.

The man put his conscious and personal responsibility ahead of his financial and career interest. That says something no matter your profession. All the power to him and his close ones involved were fortunate to have him as a man and family member.

Thing is that same old man he didn't fight is set to have met the two top world premier fighters in this sport and frankly Berto is left in a career stasis lock...he's dormant right now and is in dire need of making his mark in a huge way. I don't think he's guaranteed anything at all. Certainly not others 'needing' him to call themselves champion. Clinging to a trinket and blowing out the likes of Freddy whateverhisnameis is worlds removed from kicking in the door and making an impression vs the best so others sit up and take note.

[Ant Live]

Clottey would be a good opponent for Berto. Clottey called him out before. I think after the Judah fight. And Berto can always try to beat Clottey worse then Pacman did.

My pick at this moment would be a very big 140lber in Ortiz. Ortiz came into the fight against Peterson weighting about 155-160. Although, I'm not sold on Ortiz, he has a star potential name and a good fan base.

[JT Rock]

I just believe it comes down to be realistic. What fighter has gotten 3 straight cracks at a title whilst crapping the bed in his previous 2 trys? Not to mention how much money should Clottey get paid in a fight pairing 2 guys that don't exactly fill seats? There isn't enough money in the pot. Bailey would come at a dented can price.

The irony In your statement is, he Has trouble with fast fighters.. Berto has arguably the fastest hands in the sport, which again validate my point of people would use that as an excuse to denigrate the outcome.

[Rantcatrat]

I just believe it comes down to be realistic. What fighter has gotten 3 straight cracks at a title whilst crapping the bed in his previous 2 trys? Not to mention how much money should Clottey get paid in a fight pairing 2 guys that don't exactly fill seats? There isn't enough money in the pot. Bailey would come at a dented can price.

The irony In your statement is, he Has trouble with fast fighters.. Berto has arguably the fastest hands in the sport, which again validate my point of people would use that as an excuse to denigrate the outcome.

Watch the Cotto fight again. That wasn't crapping the bed. That was a solid fight. Don't forget many people thought the fight was very close.

He does have trouble with speed, which makes the fight a decent style match up for Berto. But, he has a helluva chin. It would be a testament to Berto if he knocked him out.

Bailey is old though and a natural 140. I hear you on the risk/reward argument, I guess. Clottey is more of a risk than Bailey is for sure.

Do you agree that Cintron is a better fight than either of them?

[JT Rock]

It's hard to say.. He is a lively competitor but seems to lack the chops when the going gets tough.

Just about 2 years ago we were considered to be in the golden era of Welters. Now Cotto is damaged and at 154 along with Citron and Margarito. Mosely is an opponent and at the end leaving Mayweather who is a train wreck outside the ring and Pac who is cherry picking....

Tough time now