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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    As much as I dislike them, the keyword in amongst all of this is "if". Let's be honest, there aren't many people, if any people about that can beat one of them let alone both.

    Plus if one of them did get beat, the public would be pushing for the winning fighter to fight the other brother anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a bad thing. Beat them both, you go into the HOF, it's a good opportunity, if only someone was able to take it.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    As much as I dislike them, the keyword in amongst all of this is "if". Let's be honest, there aren't many people, if any people about that can beat one of them let alone both.

    Plus if one of them did get beat, the public would be pushing for the winning fighter to fight the other brother anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a bad thing. Beat them both, you go into the HOF, it's a good opportunity, if only someone was able to take it.

    Yes but you are signing for a second fight as a champion but still getting paid peanuts as you signed your rights away when you were the challanger, you would be in a much better posistion to fight the second brother if you had just beat the first and would get a much better deal than one where you basically signing to fight the brother under more or less the same terms even though you are now a world champ and beat either the number 1 or 2 in the world. Its utter bollocks if you ask me.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    As much as I dislike them, the keyword in amongst all of this is "if". Let's be honest, there aren't many people, if any people about that can beat one of them let alone both.

    Plus if one of them did get beat, the public would be pushing for the winning fighter to fight the other brother anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a bad thing. Beat them both, you go into the HOF, it's a good opportunity, if only someone was able to take it.

    Yes but you are signing for a second fight as a champion but still getting paid peanuts as you signed your rights away when you were the challanger, you would be in a much better posistion to fight the second brother if you had just beat the first and would get a much better deal than one where you basically signing to fight the brother under more or less the same terms even though you are now a world champ and beat either the number 1 or 2 in the world. Its utter bollocks if you ask me.
    totally agree its just not right! a rematch is fair but fighting a completely different fighter is not!

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    As much as I dislike them, the keyword in amongst all of this is "if". Let's be honest, there aren't many people, if any people about that can beat one of them let alone both.

    Plus if one of them did get beat, the public would be pushing for the winning fighter to fight the other brother anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a bad thing. Beat them both, you go into the HOF, it's a good opportunity, if only someone was able to take it.

    Yes but you are signing for a second fight as a champion but still getting paid peanuts as you signed your rights away when you were the challanger, you would be in a much better posistion to fight the second brother if you had just beat the first and would get a much better deal than one where you basically signing to fight the brother under more or less the same terms even though you are now a world champ and beat either the number 1 or 2 in the world. Its utter bollocks if you ask me.
    I don't know what goes on in these contracts, but I would imagine as part of the deal the second fight would be on a considerably better split than the first. If a fighter doesn't even try and negotiate the second fight they probably don't actually believe they will even get there!

    Contracts are all full of so much bullshit and ego boosting across the board now.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    As much as I dislike them, the keyword in amongst all of this is "if". Let's be honest, there aren't many people, if any people about that can beat one of them let alone both.

    Plus if one of them did get beat, the public would be pushing for the winning fighter to fight the other brother anyway, so I don't think it's that much of a bad thing. Beat them both, you go into the HOF, it's a good opportunity, if only someone was able to take it.

    Yes but you are signing for a second fight as a champion but still getting paid peanuts as you signed your rights away when you were the challanger, you would be in a much better posistion to fight the second brother if you had just beat the first and would get a much better deal than one where you basically signing to fight the brother under more or less the same terms even though you are now a world champ and beat either the number 1 or 2 in the world. Its utter bollocks if you ask me.
    I don't know what goes on in these contracts, but I would imagine as part of the deal the second fight would be on a considerably better split than the first. If a fighter doesn't even try and negotiate the second fight they probably don't actually believe they will even get there!

    Contracts are all full of so much bullshit and ego boosting across the board now.
    Go ask Booth and Haye the deal they first signed in 09 the deals are shocking even if you beat the first brother, it doesn't matter if they believe or not it's a fucking joke.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Well Ouma i don't care for them Klits that much but how while shit be any better when there gone. Also to Skel there on top of the division so they get what they want until someone can beat them.

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    The Chisora fight is, was, and always has been a TUNE UP. Arreola is finished, he's fat, he's slow, and he's no longer a hot commodity. Chisora is fresh and new albeit still green to this level of fighting but no one knows how he'll handle the bright spotlight, he could take to it like a duck to water....I doubt it but the "fight or flight" response in the brain is a hell of a thing.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    The Chisora fight is, was, and always has been a TUNE UP. Arreola is finished, he's fat, he's slow, and he's no longer a hot commodity. Chisora is fresh and new albeit still green to this level of fighting but no one knows how he'll handle the bright spotlight, he could take to it like a duck to water....I doubt it but the "fight or flight" response in the brain is a hell of a thing.
    Duck to water lol If Haye was fighting Chisora after being offered the Wlad fight but he said no I need a tune up against Chisora we would never here the fucking end of it from you, you have shocking double standards when it comes to Wlad.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    The Chisora fight is, was, and always has been a TUNE UP. Arreola is finished, he's fat, he's slow, and he's no longer a hot commodity. Chisora is fresh and new albeit still green to this level of fighting but no one knows how he'll handle the bright spotlight, he could take to it like a duck to water....I doubt it but the "fight or flight" response in the brain is a hell of a thing.
    Duck to water lol If Haye was fighting Chisora after being offered the Wlad fight but he said no I need a tune up against Chisora we would never here the fucking end of it from you, you have shocking double standards when it comes to Wlad.
    Hell of alot of truth in that Lyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    The Chisora fight is, was, and always has been a TUNE UP. Arreola is finished, he's fat, he's slow, and he's no longer a hot commodity. Chisora is fresh and new albeit still green to this level of fighting but no one knows how he'll handle the bright spotlight, he could take to it like a duck to water....I doubt it but the "fight or flight" response in the brain is a hell of a thing.
    Duck to water lol If Haye was fighting Chisora after being offered the Wlad fight but he said no I need a tune up against Chisora we would never here the fucking end of it from you, you have shocking double standards when it comes to Wlad.
    Hell of alot of truth in that Lyle.
    Chisora isn't in his mid 30's so its not as if the WBA title holder would jump at the chance to fight him

    You guys bring all this stuff up (in other threads and other posts) about Chisora not being deserving (fine it doesn't bother me, its an OPTIONAL defense), about Wlad fighting 2 times in 8-9 weeks and how Wlad only fought 2 times in 2010 but a big reason for that is because he was waiting to sign a fight with the WBA title holder, same thing in 2009.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    The Chisora fight is, was, and always has been a TUNE UP. Arreola is finished, he's fat, he's slow, and he's no longer a hot commodity. Chisora is fresh and new albeit still green to this level of fighting but no one knows how he'll handle the bright spotlight, he could take to it like a duck to water....I doubt it but the "fight or flight" response in the brain is a hell of a thing.
    Duck to water lol If Haye was fighting Chisora after being offered the Wlad fight but he said no I need a tune up against Chisora we would never here the fucking end of it from you, you have shocking double standards when it comes to Wlad.
    Hell of alot of truth in that Lyle.
    Chisora isn't in his mid 30's so its not as if the WBA title holder would jump at the chance to fight him

    You guys bring all this stuff up (in other threads and other posts) about Chisora not being deserving (fine it doesn't bother me, its an OPTIONAL defense), about Wlad fighting 2 times in 8-9 weeks and how Wlad only fought 2 times in 2010 but a big reason for that is because he was waiting to sign a fight with the WBA title holder, same thing in 2009.
    If Haye had chosen to fight Chisora PERIOD, we would never have heard the end of it. You'd have said he's fighting a 14 fight novice with no previous experience. Mock the Harrison defense all you like, but truth is the guy was a European Champion. He wasn't deserving, but he, like Sosnowski when he signed to fight Vitali, was European Champion. How is Chisora acceptable but Harrison not so much? Skel is right, you have double standards when it comes to the IBF & WBO title holder.

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    What does it matter? Look at the rest of his heavyweight opponents, Chisora would be an upgrade IMO. At least he's young and undefeated unlike Monte Barrett, Audley Harrison, etc.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    What does it matter? Look at the rest of his heavyweight opponents, Chisora would be an upgrade IMO. At least he's young and undefeated unlike Monte Barrett, Audley Harrison, etc.
    Gotta agree with you on that one....I mean WTF man who is lewft for the brothers to beat up?.......Don't hate the players hate the game

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    Lyle, why was the Chisora "tune-up" so important to Wlad if Haye was an easy certain victory?
    3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.

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    Default Re: Why the fuck do all fighters who fight either Klit have to fight the other one?

    They've been doing this for ages, you have to jump through their hoops. It will be a great day for boxing (and humanity) when they retire.

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