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    Default Re: Carl froch vs Andre ward?

    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Froch has no chance IMO. Ward's speed and defense will own Froch. Froch will be beat to the punch and pot shotted all night. The super six tourney is a complete joke anyway, not even interested in these fights anymore.
    Ugh. What a fool.

    For all the garbage people want to talk about Froch, he consistantly is able to land up-jabs on top 10 SMWs. He is deceptive with speed and has sneaky power... He throws from odd angles, in unorthodox and besides bad foot placement he's an all around solid fighter that is in the top 3 SMWs in the word. Ward would have his hands full with Froch as would ANYONE in the div. Styles make fights and if Froch can cut off the ring effectively and take short steps back when Ward comes in to hold/headbut, he could score an enormous upset.

    As far as the supersix being "a joke"... It's a great idea to breath life into a rather floundering sport and any ideas are welcome.

    How is pitting the best of a div against eachother (or at least most of the top guys) a bad idea?

    Step your game up because your lack luster decription on why you find a ground breaking tourny "a joke" is, in fact, a joke.

    Go play badminton or something. Leave the combat sports to the people that understand them. You, clearly, don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Froch has no chance IMO. Ward's speed and defense will own Froch. Froch will be beat to the punch and pot shotted all night. The super six tourney is a complete joke anyway, not even interested in these fights anymore.
    Ugh. What a fool.

    For all the garbage people want to talk about Froch, he consistantly is able to land up-jabs on top 10 SMWs. He is deceptive with speed and has sneaky power... He throws from odd angles, in unorthodox and besides bad foot placement he's an all around solid fighter that is in the top 3 SMWs in the word. Ward would have his hands full with Froch as would ANYONE in the div. Styles make fights and if Froch can cut off the ring effectively and take short steps back when Ward comes in to hold/headbut, he could score an enormous upset.

    As far as the supersix being "a joke"... It's a great idea to breath life into a rather floundering sport and any ideas are welcome.

    How is pitting the best of a div against eachother (or at least most of the top guys) a bad idea?

    Step your game up because your lack luster decription on why you find a ground breaking tourny "a joke" is, in fact, a joke.

    Go play badminton or something. Leave the combat sports to the people that understand them. You, clearly, don't.

    Cheers
    First off, while I agree that it's stupid to say the super six isn't interesting anymore, but you shouldn't criticize other peoples knowledge of the sport when you also don't have a great knowledge of what's going in there. You can't just take a step back and counter ward coming in, people have been saying to do that against Hopkins and nobody has been able to do that. This is because they don't just try to get in and hold. They control the space and they maintain the pressure on their opponent. It's why they have such great range because they lead with their feet and not their hands. They don't just fall in like ruiz. If froch tries to step back he's just giving ward room to follow the jab with a cross. This fight will be similar to mayweather mosley because one guy is better coordinate with a more solid base and the other is stronger also athletic but often off balance and has a poor base

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    If its in Oakland Froch has little to no chance so he will have to go for a KO which will play into Wards hands.

    Froch went up in my estimation in his last fight. I knew he was tough but I didnt know he had those skills to totally outclass a world class fighter like Abraham. Ward went down in my estimation. Nobody looks good vs Bika but Ward had everything in his favour yet again but still couldnt showcase himself. After 6 rounds it was still anybodies fight but the decision was never in question.

    Stylistically Froch matches up well against Ward. He wont have to go looking for him like he did against Dirrell because Ward needs to get close to land those headbutts and he also likes to wrestle and impose his strength. I cant see him beating Froch at that game who gave as good as he got vs Pascal. Ward might have to switch styles when he realises he cant rough Froch up and will revert to backfoot boxing. Carl isnt as adaptable and will press the action making it look like Wards outboxing him. After a close 12 rounds, Ward wins a landslide decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    If its in Oakland Froch has little to no chance so he will have to go for a KO which will play into Wards hands.

    Froch went up in my estimation in his last fight. I knew he was tough but I didnt know he had those skills to totally outclass a world class fighter like Abraham. Ward went down in my estimation. Nobody looks good vs Bika but Ward had everything in his favour yet again but still couldnt showcase himself. After 6 rounds it was still anybodies fight but the decision was never in question.

    Stylistically Froch matches up well against Ward. He wont have to go looking for him like he did against Dirrell because Ward needs to get close to land those headbutts and he also likes to wrestle and impose his strength. I cant see him beating Froch at that game who gave as good as he got vs Pascal. Ward might have to switch styles when he realises he cant rough Froch up and will revert to backfoot boxing. Carl isnt as adaptable and will press the action making it look like Wards outboxing him. After a close 12 rounds, Ward wins a landslide decision.
    You can't compare ward to pascal he's a way more complete fighter. Ward beat bika nearly every round and at his own game. Ward could have easily outboxed him but chose not to. Physical strength means hardly anything when talking about a guy muscling another in this case. Froch has a poor base and balance which is far more important, and where ward far surpasses. You also make the mistake in thinking ward just leads in with his head. Please actually watch his fights. It's just what happens when you move your whole body forward and you slip in the way he does. It's as much the opponents' fault as his own, because they simply stand there and leave their head right there to be hit like kessler. He's controlling the space of course his head will be coming in, why would you leave your head to be hit? But froch has such poor footwork that he will caught when ward moves in when he's not in stance

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