Top 5 P4P Now?

[ElTerribleMorales]

You're a man of your word ElTerrible. That's cool.

Your new sig will probably annoy VD more, than you.

it already seems to have pissed off Kankersore haha either way yea i put my top 5, seems that the little bitch couldn't handle the fact that there are still fighters out there who have accomplished a lot more and are still more deserving than Donaire, i mean it was a great win, and that's why i finally have him on the p4p list, but 2 good wins don't put you right up there on the p4p list especially with the gap between those 2 fights, IMO the guys i have up in the top 5 are more deserving and have done a lot more than Donaire

[:::PSL:::]

You're a man of your word ElTerrible. That's cool.

Your new sig will probably annoy VD more, than you.

it already seems to have pissed off Kankersore haha either way yea i put my top 5, seems that the little bitch couldn't handle the fact that there are still fighters out there who have accomplished a lot more and are still more deserving than Donaire, i mean it was a great win, and that's why i finally have him on the p4p list, but 2 good wins don't put you right up there on the p4p list especially with the gap between those 2 fights, IMO the guys i have up in the top 5 are more deserving and have done a lot more than Donaire

I respect Montiel. I've never ever talk crap about him. I said "he will get slaughtered or KTFO" but that just about it. He still have better boxing resume than Donaire. 40 something win with 70 percent KO rate against some good names. No one can take that away from him. But the better man won last night. Beat the man to be the man as they say.

Donaire is getting exaggeratedly overhype right now regarding this p4p thing. Like I'm trying to say in first page of this thread. Pacquiao only became one of the top p4p fighter when he defeated Barrera for the first time. I think Nonito will have to win a lineal belt in heavier weight class too to deserve such accolade he's receiving right now.

[Julius Rain]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

[Pavlik]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

[ElTerribleMorales]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

exactly how i have it right now, IMO Donaire is now actually deserving of p4p status but still have him on the bottom half, around 7 or 8

[Rantcatrat]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

[Kev]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

Whilst I wouldn't have him there myself his acomplishments are as great as Donaire's imo.

Two weight world champ, undefeated unlike Donaire. Has beaten more world champions than Donaire. Has beaten a future Hall of Famer in R Marquez, not sure Darchinyan or Montiel are on the level of Raphael Marquez.

Lopez has knocked out two reigning world champs in De Leon and Lueveno and forced Marquez to quit after 8 rounds also.

[Rantcatrat]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

Whilst I wouldn't have him there myself his acomplishments are as great as Donaire's imo.

Two weight world champ, undefeated unlike Donaire. Has beaten more world champions than Donaire. Has beaten a future Hall of Famer in R Marquez, not sure Darchinyan or Montiel are on the level of Raphael Marquez.

Lopez has knocked out two reigning world champs in De Leon and Lueveno and forced Marquez to quit after 8 rounds also.

I can't decide how high I'd place JuanMa on my list. I'd have him top ten for sure. My only thing is that he hasn't beat the best in his division at featherweight. Donaire just destroyed the best in his division. I've always liked Mares, but Montiel was the best in the division after Donaire. To me, JuanMa would merit top 5 if he beat Gamboa or Chris John, or he had beat Caballero before Caballero's loss to Litzau, in a similarly decisive fashion. Who was considered the best at 122 when JuanMa was in that division (besides JuanMa)?

Donaire also has gone from 112 to 118, a three division champ whereas JuanMa is a two division champion. Am I correct on that? Can't recall right now exactly.

The Ponce De Leon victory was a big win and that is a big part of the reason why I have him in my top ten. Marquez was great at 118 and 122, but not so much at 126. See my point. Bottom line I guess is that I'm skeptical of giving JuanMa too lofty of a ranking until he beats Gamboa or John.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

[CFH]

For what it's worth, my top 5 p4p would probably look something like this:

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. Hopkins (I feel dirty just typing that)
5. Ward/Donaire/Bradley/Lopez/Froch

I really feel the guys I have in the #5 spot are pretty interchangeable depending on ones preferences.

[TitoFan]

MY personal top 5 p4p does not include Floyd Mayweather.

(collective sigh of disbelief from Mayweather fans)

I just don't think that having fought the overrated Hatton, undersized JMM, and over-the-hill Mosley in about 3 1/2 frigging years is action enough to warrant a top 5 p4p ranking for the Pretty Boy. (Even RJJ himself was calling him inactive during last night's telecast.... and he LIKES Floyd).

That being said, let the insults rain, and the booing begin........

[Kev]

MY personal top 5 p4p does not include Floyd Mayweather.

(collective sigh of disbelief from Mayweather fans)

I just don't think that having fought the overrated Hatton, undersized JMM, and over-the-hill Mosley in about 3 1/2 frigging years is action enough to warrant a top 5 p4p ranking for the Pretty Boy. (Even RJJ himself was calling him inactive during last night's telecast.... and he LIKES Floyd).

That being said, let the insults rain, and the booing begin........

If you are removing him from the ratings altogether on the grounds that he is inactive/retired then it's a fair position to hold, although for myself I still have him at two as he's not not publicly retired.

If you're saying you have him further down your list however and just don't think his current opposition is worthy of a top 5 placement then that is the most retarded thing I've heard on Saddo's this week at least, certainly since Seanie's plan to get doctor's to lead the protests for better fight matchups

[Julius Rain]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

Mayweather is retired.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

Mayweather is retired.

until he actually says it again as he did the first time around, he's not retired, hell it hasn't even been a full 12 months since his last fight

[miron_lang]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

Its PURELY Subjective these p4p Rankings so its justified to do that. But i would equate a fighters recent work and the quality of opponent.

Between 4 and 6 is where i wold put Donairre. Pac, Floyd and Marquez are definitely above him.

but potentially That skillset + power on both hands = Scary