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    Default Re: Why the heavyweight boxing scene is on life support?

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    Deontay Wilder
    Dee...ontay? Is that how its pronounced? He cant be any good with a name like a female R'n'B singer.
    He's very raw, but he's 15 (15 KO)-0-0, he's 6'7 has recently weighed around the 220 mark(imagine that a heavyweight that could stand to add a few pounds) and has a wingspan of 84" and he's being trained by Mark Breland (last I heard). He's young (25) and hasn't fought anyone of note yet, but I think he'll start getting tested this year. Like I said, he's a prospect.
    He looks very raw your right Lyle. I've been watching him too. I think he needs to be brought on very very slowly though. I feel that if he gets thrown in with anyone in the current top 10 (Povetkin, Arreloa, Chambers, Chagaev etc.) he will come unstuck. But fight the likes of Monte Barrett and that kind of level and he could learn a few things over the next couple of years. I feel in my gut that he doesn't have the natural talent to be very good but I hope I'm wrong.

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    Deontay Wilder
    Dee...ontay? Is that how its pronounced? He cant be any good with a name like a female R'n'B singer.
    He's very raw, but he's 15 (15 KO)-0-0, he's 6'7 has recently weighed around the 220 mark(imagine that a heavyweight that could stand to add a few pounds) and has a wingspan of 84" and he's being trained by Mark Breland (last I heard). He's young (25) and hasn't fought anyone of note yet, but I think he'll start getting tested this year. Like I said, he's a prospect.
    He looks very raw your right Lyle. I've been watching him too. I think he needs to be brought on very very slowly though. I feel that if he gets thrown in with anyone in the current top 10 (Povetkin, Arreloa, Chambers, Chagaev etc.) he will come unstuck. But fight the likes of Monte Barrett and that kind of level and he could learn a few things over the next couple of years. I feel in my gut that he doesn't have the natural talent to be very good but I hope I'm wrong.
    At the very best he's Lennox Lewis and the worst he's Malcom Tann...that's the range I give him so there could be a spot between Riddick Bowe and Julius Long he could occupy and IMO it wouldn't be a total waste. This division needs stepping stones like any other.

    As big and as lanky as the guy is I think you're right he needs to move slow because I don't feel like the lankier fighters develop great hand eye coordination as fast as the smaller fighters. Plus he's been fighting in the south up til now so I think he needs to move his base to LA, Vegas, New York, Atlatic City to really develop.

    I've heard Seth Mitchel is more polished, but I haven't seen the guy

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    Default Re: Why the heavyweight boxing scene is on life support?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    Deontay Wilder
    Dee...ontay? Is that how its pronounced? He cant be any good with a name like a female R'n'B singer.
    He's very raw, but he's 15 (15 KO)-0-0, he's 6'7 has recently weighed around the 220 mark(imagine that a heavyweight that could stand to add a few pounds) and has a wingspan of 84" and he's being trained by Mark Breland (last I heard). He's young (25) and hasn't fought anyone of note yet, but I think he'll start getting tested this year. Like I said, he's a prospect.
    He looks very raw your right Lyle. I've been watching him too. I think he needs to be brought on very very slowly though. I feel that if he gets thrown in with anyone in the current top 10 (Povetkin, Arreloa, Chambers, Chagaev etc.) he will come unstuck. But fight the likes of Monte Barrett and that kind of level and he could learn a few things over the next couple of years. I feel in my gut that he doesn't have the natural talent to be very good but I hope I'm wrong.
    At the very best he's Lennox Lewis and the worst he's Malcom Tann...that's the range I give him so there could be a spot between Riddick Bowe and Julius Long he could occupy and IMO it wouldn't be a total waste. This division needs stepping stones like any other.

    As big and as lanky as the guy is I think you're right he needs to move slow because I don't feel like the lankier fighters develop great hand eye coordination as fast as the smaller fighters. Plus he's been fighting in the south up til now so I think he needs to move his base to LA, Vegas, New York, Atlatic City to really develop.

    I've heard Seth Mitchel is more polished, but I haven't seen the guy


    Seth is pretty good for a guy who crossed over fromm College Football (Michigan State) He is coming along pretty darn well. I must say, your ranges are quite wide. Tann to Lewis and/or Bowe to long is almost as good as THe Jewish Hammer to Tim Withersppon.

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    Deontay Wilder
    Dee...ontay? Is that how its pronounced? He cant be any good with a name like a female R'n'B singer.
    He's very raw, but he's 15 (15 KO)-0-0, he's 6'7 has recently weighed around the 220 mark(imagine that a heavyweight that could stand to add a few pounds) and has a wingspan of 84" and he's being trained by Mark Breland (last I heard). He's young (25) and hasn't fought anyone of note yet, but I think he'll start getting tested this year. Like I said, he's a prospect.
    He looks very raw your right Lyle. I've been watching him too. I think he needs to be brought on very very slowly though. I feel that if he gets thrown in with anyone in the current top 10 (Povetkin, Arreloa, Chambers, Chagaev etc.) he will come unstuck. But fight the likes of Monte Barrett and that kind of level and he could learn a few things over the next couple of years. I feel in my gut that he doesn't have the natural talent to be very good but I hope I'm wrong.
    At the very best he's Lennox Lewis and the worst he's Malcom Tann...that's the range I give him so there could be a spot between Riddick Bowe and Julius Long he could occupy and IMO it wouldn't be a total waste. This division needs stepping stones like any other.

    As big and as lanky as the guy is I think you're right he needs to move slow because I don't feel like the lankier fighters develop great hand eye coordination as fast as the smaller fighters. Plus he's been fighting in the south up til now so I think he needs to move his base to LA, Vegas, New York, Atlatic City to really develop.

    I've heard Seth Mitchel is more polished, but I haven't seen the guy


    Seth is pretty good for a guy who crossed over fromm College Football (Michigan State) He is coming along pretty darn well. I must say, your ranges are quite wide. Tann to Lewis and/or Bowe to long is almost as good as THe Jewish Hammer to Tim Withersppon.
    Its got to be a wide range because #1 He's young and #2 he hasn't been tested so other than "he's very raw" you can't tell much about him. Thee's not a good judge on power yet, or chin or stamina and he hasn't fought anyone I've heard of he's just got a huge frame and only when he finally steps up will we know anything about him.

    Not all of his opponents are Butterbean-esque...who knew Wilder had already fought "The White James Toney"
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    Default Re: Why the heavyweight boxing scene is on life support?

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
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    Deontay Wilder
    Dee...ontay? Is that how its pronounced? He cant be any good with a name like a female R'n'B singer.
    He's very raw, but he's 15 (15 KO)-0-0, he's 6'7 has recently weighed around the 220 mark(imagine that a heavyweight that could stand to add a few pounds) and has a wingspan of 84" and he's being trained by Mark Breland (last I heard). He's young (25) and hasn't fought anyone of note yet, but I think he'll start getting tested this year. Like I said, he's a prospect.
    He looks very raw your right Lyle. I've been watching him too. I think he needs to be brought on very very slowly though. I feel that if he gets thrown in with anyone in the current top 10 (Povetkin, Arreloa, Chambers, Chagaev etc.) he will come unstuck. But fight the likes of Monte Barrett and that kind of level and he could learn a few things over the next couple of years. I feel in my gut that he doesn't have the natural talent to be very good but I hope I'm wrong.
    At the very best he's Lennox Lewis and the worst he's Malcom Tann...that's the range I give him so there could be a spot between Riddick Bowe and Julius Long he could occupy and IMO it wouldn't be a total waste. This division needs stepping stones like any other.

    As big and as lanky as the guy is I think you're right he needs to move slow because I don't feel like the lankier fighters develop great hand eye coordination as fast as the smaller fighters. Plus he's been fighting in the south up til now so I think he needs to move his base to LA, Vegas, New York, Atlatic City to really develop.

    I've heard Seth Mitchel is more polished, but I haven't seen the guy


    Seth is pretty good for a guy who crossed over fromm College Football (Michigan State) He is coming along pretty darn well. I must say, your ranges are quite wide. Tann to Lewis and/or Bowe to long is almost as good as THe Jewish Hammer to Tim Withersppon.
    I've seen Seth once on ESPN FNF's I think and I thought he too was very raw but had potential. In fact that could be a fight to watch for over the next couple of years. Wilder vs Mitchell. I never see either man being as good as a Lennox Lewis class fighter though!

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    Default Re: Why the heavyweight boxing scene is on life support?

    Deontay needs to swing at guys with pulses! Freakish height and thin frame combined with being marketed on power and ko numbers and a 99.5% untested chin is a recipe for disaster. They need to keep him off air and fight a toughie....If he crashes and burns it will serve him better then beating any 10 pizza delivery guys in co main events.

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