Haye v Klitschko is on official .........apparently

[erics44]

i'll be putting money on haye

i dont think wlad has the nuts

[El Kabong]

i'll be putting money on haye

i dont think wlad has the nuts

Why don't you cut out the middle man and just flush it down the toilet?

[boxingbantz]

apparently they are putting it in the contract that if wlad gets injured then vitali will fight haye if he wins his next fight

The contract actually states that Haye fights a Klit, not necessarily Wlad. It's just that Wlad is the priority choice at the moment but means Vitali will step in if he fails to recover from his ab injury.

[erics44]

i'll be putting money on haye

i dont think wlad has the nuts

Why don't you cut out the middle man and just flush it down the toilet?

naa, ill put it on at the bookies, i think theres a very good chance of a return

just say that haye wins by devastating KO in 2 rounds, how will you feel?

and dont say it wont happen its a hypothetical question you know what i mean?

[Rantcatrat]

The worst part about this fight happening is that we have to endure Haye's trash-talking for the next 5 months.

It's puzzling to me that people on this forum are so high on Haye when his best win is over Mormeck or Valuev. It just seems a bit odd. I guess people must see a lot of potential greatness in him. Haye Fans - What is it about Haye that impresses you?

I hope people give Wlad credit when he beats Haye. I have nothing against Haye. I just haven't seen much of him to be very impressed about. It's good that we finally have a big heavyweight fight to look forward to. Credit to both fighters for making it happen becaue it is good for boxing. Now, if only Manny and Floyd would follow suit.

The beginnings of Haye's trash-talking:

“I have been chasing this fight since day one, because I know boxing styles and I know which styles I have success against,” said Haye. “Klitschko is ready-made for me. I eat tall, chinny Eastern European heavyweights for breakfast. Wladimir is a fighter that doesn’t like to fight, and he has admitted that fact in the past. Unfortunately for him, I am a fighter that loves nothing more than fighting.
“I have the heart of lion, whereas Wladimir has the heart of a hyena. He cries and squeals and slips into the wilderness at the first sign of danger. Wladimir has proven this over the years, and I’m certain he will want no part of this lion when it finally comes time to go to war.”

[generalbulldog]

This is what will likely happen if the 2 fights. Massive amount of shit talking from both sides to stir up the fight, it probably will get mainstream attention and then billed as the biggest fight in boxing for the unified HW championship, HBO or Showtime will pick it up.

But then once both gets in the ring. Wlad is going to paw with his left or jab, jab, jab, tries to land the right, then clinch/hold if Haye gets close, repeat and rinse like he has done with every opponent he faces (there's a reason why he's called boring by hardcore and casual fans). Haye more than likely will try to fight Wlad like he did against Valuev (which was a shit fight) and try to outbox Wlad from the outside.

The mainstream press will cover the fight, casual fans will tune in thinking that this will be Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier and will be massively bored and disappointed saying wtf? There will then be countless articles and airtime why boxing is dead and no one cares because the HW division is so shit when the biggest HW championship fight in a decade that is so massively hyped and is considered to be the biggest fight in boxing is a dud.

Let me ask you guys this, when has Wlad been in an exciting fight that hardcore boxing and casual sports fan were both in agreement that it was an awesome fight? None, exactly. The fight will be a dud, mark my words.

[Fenster]

This is what will likely happen if the 2 fights. Massive amount of shit talking from both sides to stir up the fight, it probably will get mainstream attention and then billed as the biggest fight in boxing for the unified HW championship, HBO or Showtime will pick it up.

But then once both gets in the ring. Wlad is going to paw with his left or jab, jab, jab, tries to land the right, then clinch/hold if Haye gets close, repeat and rinse like he has done with every opponent he faces (there's a reason why he's called boring by hardcore and casual fans). Haye more than likely will try to fight Wlad like he did against Valuev (which was a shit fight) and try to outbox Wlad from the outside.

The mainstream press will cover the fight, casual fans will tune in thinking that this will be Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier and will be massively bored and disappointed saying wtf? There will then be countless articles and airtime why boxing is dead and no one cares because the HW division is so shit when the biggest HW championship fight in a decade that is so massively hyped and is considered to be the biggest fight in boxing is a dud.

Let me ask you guys this, when has Wlad been in an exciting fight that hardcore boxing and casual sports fan were both in agreement that it was an awesome fight? None, exactly. The fight will be a dud, mark my words.

This.

It will be a million times better build-up than actual fight. There's no way safety Wlad is gonna come out of his shell against the most dangerous puncher he's faced in donkey's years and there's no way Haye is gonna go in all guns blazing.

If it's an early KO Haye is the more likely. Wlad will wait until Haye is tired and lost his sharpness before risking taking him out.

[El Kabong]

This.

It will be a million times better build-up than actual fight. There's no way safety Wlad is gonna come out of his shell against the most dangerous puncher he's faced in donkey's years and there's no way Haye is gonna go in all guns blazing.

If it's an early KO Haye is the more likely. Wlad will wait until Haye is tired and lost his sharpness before risking taking him out.

See people are buying into this idea that "Wlad will just come out establish the jab and maybe in round 5 finally throw a right cross" when the reality of the situation is that vs Sam Peter a dangerous albeit slower puncher than the WBA "Super" title holder, Wlad threw power punches from the get go, one of the first punches landed was a right cross...a right cross that would end this fight.

I have no doubts that we'll see the WBA "Super" title holder get hurt early on and try to hold on for dear life...a beautiful case of irony since part of the trash talk has been directed at "safety first" and jabbing and holding....Wlad MAY try to carry him, but he may just have a little too much fun beating the shit out of the guy and end it sooner. Plus we've got no idea how the WBA title holder's chin will hold up to Wlad's jab let alone the cross or the hook....if Ruiz can catch you and hurt you then the Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook Bad" for fighting Wladimir a guy with more KO wins (at heavyweight) than his opponent has fights (in total)

[Fenster]

This.

It will be a million times better build-up than actual fight. There's no way safety Wlad is gonna come out of his shell against the most dangerous puncher he's faced in donkey's years and there's no way Haye is gonna go in all guns blazing.

If it's an early KO Haye is the more likely. Wlad will wait until Haye is tired and lost his sharpness before risking taking him out.

See people are buying into this idea that "Wlad will just come out establish the jab and maybe in round 5 finally throw a right cross" when the reality of the situation is that vs Sam Peter a dangerous albeit slower puncher than the WBA "Super" title holder, Wlad threw power punches from the get go, one of the first punches landed was a right cross...a right cross that would end this fight.

I have no doubts that we'll see the WBA "Super" title holder get hurt early on and try to hold on for dear life...a beautiful case of irony since part of the trash talk has been directed at "safety first" and jabbing and holding....Wlad MAY try to carry him, but he may just have a little too much fun beating the shit out of the guy and end it sooner. Plus we've got no idea how the WBA title holder's chin will hold up to Wlad's jab let alone the cross or the hook....if Ruiz can catch you and hurt you then the Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook Bad" for fighting Wladimir a guy with more KO wins (at heavyweight) than his opponent has fights (in total)

Sam Peter is a statue compared with Haye. He can't move and he's P4P one of the slowest fuckers on earth. PLUS - the fat plodder tired himself out doing a Joe Frazier impersonation in the first minute of round one. He was begging for an oxygen mask after that.

Tyson Fury would have beat him quicker than safety Wlad. Fact.

[El Kabong]

Sam Peter is a statue compared with Haye. He can't move and he's P4P one of the slowest fuckers on earth. PLUS - the fat plodder tired himself out doing a Joe Frazier impersonation in the first minute of round one.

Tyson Fury would have beat him quicker than safety Wlad. Fact.

Oh hold on....

press play and then continue on with your little rant

Sam Peter has a heart, a chin, and some guts....that's more than YOUR BOY can boast about.

[badr_hari]

Massive amount of shit talking from both sides to stir up the fight, it probably will get mainstream attention and then billed as the biggest fight in boxing for the unified HW championship, HBO or Showtime will pick it up.

Trash talking is part of the bussiness. Biggest fight in boxing ? NO WAY. As much as Haye talks (other than BRITS) people won't believe he beats Klitschko (an ATG that has been smashing every opponent for the last 6-7 years).

But then once both gets in the ring. Wlad is going to paw with his left or jab, jab, jab, tries to land the right, then clinch/hold if Haye gets close, repeat and rinse like he has done with every opponent he faces (there's a reason why he's called boring by hardcore and casual fans). Haye more than likely will try to fight Wlad like he did against Valuev (which was a shit fight) and try to outbox Wlad from the outside.

What's wrong with this. A lot of fighters use their JAB and land the right. A lot of fighters try to outbox their opponents from the outside.

The mainstream press will cover the fight, casual fans will tune in thinking that this will be Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier and will be massively bored and disappointed saying wtf? There will then be countless articles and airtime why boxing is dead and no one cares because the HW division is so shit when the biggest HW championship fight in a decade that is so massively hyped and is considered to be the biggest fight in boxing is a dud.

The casual fans you are talking about are, i think, the CASUAL BRITISH FANS. Yes casual british fans will think its like Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier, and OF COURSE it won't be, because its not a close fight its more of a 75-25 fight.
And, this fight is no bigger than Wladimir's fights with Ibragimov, Thompson, Chagaev and some others.

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[boozeboxer]

It is good to see some excitement in the HW division. The bullshit is immense and I was tired of Haye's trashtalking while he was still at cruiser....and I do admit he did well at the weakest weight division in boxing.


I just hope for a good fight.

I would bet the fight does not happen, but if it does, I bet it does not go the distance.

[Mark TKO]

I give Wlad a massive 70-30 chance in winning this one. As I have said for about 2 years now if both were physically the same size Haye would be a very strong favourite in my eyes - but they aren't and that for me will be the crucial, and deciding, factor.

70-30 was the same way I thought when Mayweather v Hatton was announced (though I admit that after 4 days on the pop in Vegas and getting carried away with the hype by the time fight night arrived I had been converted to 0-100 in Hatton's favour........)

[Fenster]

Massive amount of shit talking from both sides to stir up the fight, it probably will get mainstream attention and then billed as the biggest fight in boxing for the unified HW championship, HBO or Showtime will pick it up.

Trash talking is part of the bussiness. Biggest fight in boxing ? NO WAY. As much as Haye talks (other than BRITS) people won't believe he beats Klitschko (an ATG that has been smashing every opponent for the last 6-7 years).

But then once both gets in the ring. Wlad is going to paw with his left or jab, jab, jab, tries to land the right, then clinch/hold if Haye gets close, repeat and rinse like he has done with every opponent he faces (there's a reason why he's called boring by hardcore and casual fans). Haye more than likely will try to fight Wlad like he did against Valuev (which was a shit fight) and try to outbox Wlad from the outside.

What's wrong with this. A lot of fighters use their JAB and land the right. A lot of fighters try to outbox their opponents from the outside.

The mainstream press will cover the fight, casual fans will tune in thinking that this will be Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier and will be massively bored and disappointed saying wtf? There will then be countless articles and airtime why boxing is dead and no one cares because the HW division is so shit when the biggest HW championship fight in a decade that is so massively hyped and is considered to be the biggest fight in boxing is a dud.

The casual fans you are talking about are, i think, the CASUAL BRITISH FANS. Yes casual british fans will think its like Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier, and OF COURSE it won't be, because its not a close fight its more of a 75-25 fight.
And, this fight is no bigger than Wladimir's fights with Ibragimov, Thompson, Chagaev and some others.

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That's ridiculous. This is the biggest fight in boxing outside Pac-Floyd.

Casual Brit fans will buy it. German fans will buy it (60,000 punters). HBO wil buy it. And EVERY hardcore boxing fan around the world will watch it.

Whether the fight is entertaining or not is irrelevant. It is huge.

[badr_hari]

That's ridiculous. This is the biggest fight in boxing outside Pac-Floyd.

Casual Brit fans will buy it. German fans will buy it (60,000 punters). HBO wil buy it. And EVERY hardcore boxing fan around the world will watch it.

Whether the fight is entertaining or not is irrelevant. It is huge.

Its not the first time HBO buys a heavyweight fight and a hardcore fan should usually catch every fight with the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
European fans will buy NOTHING, they have it FOR FREE on RTL like EVERY Klitschko fight (except Britain of course).

I understand you mate, you are British. Its a huge fight, exactly.