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    I think Cotto could learn a bit from Dimitry Pirog and PIVOT more. It should be easy for him as he can fight orthodox or southpaw and you can slip in and out of range on balance and be ready to fire off punches quicker...you can lull fighters to sleep like that (Pirog-Jacobs) or draw them in for a big counter punch they never see coming.

    Margarito is a strong cat and he's durable, but Cotto (and Manny) has to keep in mind that he doesn't need to deliver KO power in every single punch to beat him, he just needs an even steady pace and the main thing is to keep Margarito from throwing over 90-100+ punches a round, you need to look at when he's done that, every time he's been held to numbers like that he's been stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I think Cotto could learn a bit from Dimitry Pirog and PIVOT more. It should be easy for him as he can fight orthodox or southpaw and you can slip in and out of range on balance and be ready to fire off punches quicker...you can lull fighters to sleep like that (Pirog-Jacobs) or draw them in for a big counter punch they never see coming.

    Margarito is a strong cat and he's durable, but Cotto (and Manny) has to keep in mind that he doesn't need to deliver KO power in every single punch to beat him, he just needs an even steady pace and the main thing is to keep Margarito from throwing over 90-100+ punches a round, you need to look at when he's done that, every time he's been held to numbers like that he's been stopped.
    El Kabong, so you would rather have Cotto box more here than be a pressure fighter?
    This has been boggling my mind for quite some time now.
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    I would have Cotto fight (mentally) the manner in which Wlad would fight...box the hell out of him until he's ripe for the picking and then go for the kill. The problem with Cotto the last time was that Margarito is SO easy to hit Miguel thought "Well OK, I'll throw the kitchen sink at him and he'll wither like everyone else I've fought"...that's a very easy mistake to make when you fight someone that lacks defense but is durable...look at Morrison-Mercer, Wlad-Brewster I Lee-Vera, and so on.

    Miguel was doing just fine vs Margaito to begin with, he won rounds easy, he didn't take much damage, he was really frustrating Toni for the first half of that fight...but he was putting too much on his punches which will tucker you out, he was circling away which was tiring him out, and Cotto's defense isn't made for BLOCKING shots it's made for parrying shots and countering which is hard to do when you're too tired to move and too tired to put anything on your punches.

    I think if Cotto BOXED for 12 rounds he'd school Margarito...it's not Miguel's style, but it would be the smart thing to do. IF Cotto can KO Margarito he needs to put his emotions aside and allow the KO to come to him and not chase after it like he did the first time.

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    Why fight him again you already beat him before...
    that's how I feel anyway.

    But a rematch would be huge and I think Cotto beats him again.

    Cotto was soundly beating him in the center of the ring.
    The 2nd Cotto would go to the ropes is when Tony did his best work.

    That's usually when Tony works his best when opponents are pinned.
    Look at all his TKO's most come in this fashion def. Lewis & Cintron off the top of my head.
    Tony ladnded his best shot on Pac when Pac was sitting on the ropes.

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    I agree Mick, I think Cotto-Angulo would be better or even Cotto-Alvarez....I think Cotto could take both of those, he's a far better boxer than Angulo and he's a huge step up in competition for Canelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Why fight him again you already beat him before...
    that's how I feel anyway.

    But a rematch would be huge and I think Cotto beats him again.

    Cotto was soundly beating him in the center of the ring.
    The 2nd Cotto would go to the ropes is when Tony did his best work.

    That's usually when Tony works his best when opponents are pinned.
    Look at all his TKO's most come in this fashion def. Lewis & Cintron off the top of my head.
    Tony ladnded his best shot on Pac when Pac was sitting on the ropes.
    You have just entered Cutmemicks fantasy land where getting your ass beat means you won. Its a magical place where all your favorite fighters never lose. Bernard Hopkins is there as host, he will show you around. Vic Darchinyan will be guest speaking on how getting knocked unconcious isnt really losing, and that you can actually still fight while unconcious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Why fight him again you already beat him before...
    that's how I feel anyway.

    But a rematch would be huge and I think Cotto beats him again.

    Cotto was soundly beating him in the center of the ring.
    The 2nd Cotto would go to the ropes is when Tony did his best work.

    That's usually when Tony works his best when opponents are pinned.
    Look at all his TKO's most come in this fashion def. Lewis & Cintron off the top of my head.
    Tony ladnded his best shot on Pac when Pac was sitting on the ropes.
    You have just entered Cutmemicks fantasy land where getting your ass beat means you won. Its a magical place where all your favorite fighters never lose. Bernard Hopkins is there as host, he will show you around. Vic Darchinyan will be guest speaking on how getting knocked unconcious isnt really losing, and that you can actually still fight while unconcious.
    hey maybe you should join in, i heard John Duddy is going to have his world titles on display

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Why fight him again you already beat him before...
    that's how I feel anyway.

    But a rematch would be huge and I think Cotto beats him again.

    Cotto was soundly beating him in the center of the ring.
    The 2nd Cotto would go to the ropes is when Tony did his best work.

    That's usually when Tony works his best when opponents are pinned.
    Look at all his TKO's most come in this fashion def. Lewis & Cintron off the top of my head.
    Tony ladnded his best shot on Pac when Pac was sitting on the ropes.
    You have just entered Cutmemicks fantasy land where getting your ass beat means you won. Its a magical place where all your favorite fighters never lose. Bernard Hopkins is there as host, he will show you around. Vic Darchinyan will be guest speaking on how getting knocked unconcious isnt really losing, and that you can actually still fight while unconcious.
    hey maybe you should join in, i heard John Duddy is going to have his world titles on display
    I'm too busy listening to Cotto talk about how he demolished Pac and made him quit. I'm more interested in active fighters. Mayorga will be having a retirement speech on how to beat fighters by letting them hit you uncontested in the face. Duddy will be in attendance I'll talk to him then.
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