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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    I honestly thought Oscar had a real good shot of winning. He was the one fighting at his comfortable weight. I thought Oscar would impose his power and control Floyd with his jab.

    Looking back at his last couple of fights prior to Floyd, he was still on top of his game. Knocking out Mayorga with ease was credible IMO. Mayorga took bombs from everyone he fought before and after Oscar but no one made it look as easy as he did. I thought his campaign at 160 had nothing to do with his skills diminishing, but rather him fighting at a weight he should not be competing in. Hopkins was way too big and Sturm should've won the fight considering how out of shape Oscar was in to make weight.

    Prior to that, his second fight with Mosley was a great one (I thought Oscar won), he KOed Campas, then arguably his best victory against Vargas came before that. I only really took the fact that he was getting older to be his disadvantage against Floyd.

    In conclusion, I thought Oscar vs Floyd was a real fight. I thought his fight with Forbes was the first fight where you saw him on the slide. Forbes isn't much of a puncher but he marked up Oscar's face not landing anything all that impressive.

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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Looking back at his last couple of fights prior to Floyd, he was still on top of his game. Knocking out Mayorga with ease was credible IMO. Mayorga took bombs from everyone he fought before and after Oscar but no one made it look as easy as he did.
    You know, I meant to touch on how Oscars performance matched up to how Cotto handled Mayorga. I completely agree with you. Overall, I think Oscar was in better shape, was a more capable and a more competent fighter back then, than Cotto is now.

    I wonder who would win in a fight between Amir Khan & Miguel Cotto?
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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Looking back at his last couple of fights prior to Floyd, he was still on top of his game. Knocking out Mayorga with ease was credible IMO. Mayorga took bombs from everyone he fought before and after Oscar but no one made it look as easy as he did.
    You know, I meant to touch on how Oscars performance matched up to how Cotto handled Mayorga. I completely agree with you. Overall, I think Oscar was in better shape, was a more capable and a more competent fighter back then, than Cotto is now.

    I wonder who would win in a fight between Amir Khan & Miguel Cotto?
    That would be one hell of a fight IMO. The Emanuel Steward version of Cotto would not win IMO. Khan would use his height and reach to out jab Cotto. Now if we're talking about the Evangelista Cotto version, I give Miguel a great chance. Cotto will have to come in and pressure Khan. The Cotto of old really knew how to cut a ring off and when he got you there, he put punches together as good as anyone in the game. I actually love the idea of this fight. Hopefully Khan can move up and they can have a catchweight fight...

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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    I honestly thought Oscar had a real good shot of winning. He was the one fighting at his comfortable weight. I thought Oscar would impose his power and control Floyd with his jab.

    Looking back at his last couple of fights prior to Floyd, he was still on top of his game. Knocking out Mayorga with ease was credible IMO. Mayorga took bombs from everyone he fought before and after Oscar but no one made it look as easy as he did. I thought his campaign at 160 had nothing to do with his skills diminishing, but rather him fighting at a weight he should not be competing in. Hopkins was way too big and Sturm should've won the fight considering how out of shape Oscar was in to make weight.

    Prior to that, his second fight with Mosley was a great one (I thought Oscar won), he KOed Campas, then arguably his best victory against Vargas came before that. I only really took the fact that he was getting older to be his disadvantage against Floyd.

    In conclusion, I thought Oscar vs Floyd was a real fight. I thought his fight with Forbes was the first fight where you saw him on the slide. Forbes isn't much of a puncher but he marked up Oscar's face not landing anything all that impressive.
    Yea good post

    Gotta agree with what ya put here.

    I was one that belived the fight was a draw as I scored it on the night, Oscar had the first half and Floyd took over 2nd half. At the time the fight was signed, I was firmly under the impression Oscar would win due to his size and speed. As In alot of previous fights Oscar faded in the Championship rounds, which gave Floyd chance to get back into the fight, and subsequently take the decision.

    In regards to Oscar being his greatest victory, the is a case ya could make for it, Oscar one day will no doubt be a HOF. Will many other of Floyds opponents achieve that status ? who knows, but for me Oscar certainly will. Main reason I went with Hatton, well, part bias with nationality, and him being a fighter I followed since the start of his career. Added he was unbeaten at the time, and held titles at 2 weight divisions lead to my decision.
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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    i think that this links to the floyds resume thread too

    it may not have been oscar at his 100% best but it was definately a very very good oscar

    from what i read on here everyone that floyd has fought was on the slide or at the wrong weight or whatever
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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    from what i read on here everyone that floyd has fought was on the slide or at the wrong weight or whatever
    To be fair that gets said about every unbeaten fighter, untill of course they get beat. Hatton had the same accusations levelled at him before the Floyd loss. Then as soon as he did lose, he then was a shot fighter on the slide.
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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    from what i read on here everyone that floyd has fought was on the slide or at the wrong weight or whatever
    To be fair that gets said about every unbeaten fighter, untill of course they get beat. Hatton had the same accusations levelled at him before the Floyd loss. Then as soon as he did lose, he then was a shot fighter on the slide.

    i have to say floyds win over hatton was flawed coz of the ref, but thats the only one im gonna complain about
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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    Oscar wasnt in his prime when he fought Floyd but he was still a very good fight and would of beaten most fighters at that weight at the time.The weight which they had the fight at helped De la hoya ment he didnt have to struggle to make weight.

    I gave the fight to Floyd by 1 or 2 rounds. I think the way to beat Floyd imo is you must be quick on your feet and have a good jab to move in behind to get on the inside and throw lots of punches at chest and body. Which Oscar did most of that for 5 rounds then stopped throwing his jab which aloud aloud Floyd into the fight.

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    Default Re: Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

    You must remember Floyd gave all concessions to ODH, weight, gloves etc and was the under dog in many people eyes with Hindsight it looks like a poor victory but at that time it was one of Floyd's greatest achievements.
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