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Bilbo come on man you know that temple shots can knock you off balance right? You do know this medical fact? You dont have to be hit in the chin for your equilibrium to get scrambled. I saw him get hit in the temple area, his neck gets a shockwave that send his legs squirrelly. If he wasnt affected by the punch he would have brought his left leg back rather than it spazzing out like it did. Some people just see what they want to see. Glen Becks of boxing I swear.
It's not really a question of whether the punch had any effect, it's whether it was the reason he couldn't continue. I'm sure Vitali felt the punches that solis countered him with too, it doesn't mean had his leg popped at that time that it would have been those punches that ko'd him.
Watch your own video back. He gets hit with a glancing temple shot. Then a full three seconds pass before he steps back and his knee goes. Whether he felt the punch or not, or whether it contributed to his knee buckling isn't the issue here. It just seems clear to me, and I think most unbiased observers that it was the knee that prevented him from fighting.
Do you think from watching that video that he would have gone down with a healthy knee? I disagree completely. Count the three seconds, why did he go down then? Would he have been so discombobulated that his legs turned to jelly, but still sharp enough to clutch his knee as he was falling to make it look as if his knee went? Would he have been clear eyed enough to shake his head at his corner, indicating his knee was bust when he got up?
He lost 100% because his knee went. And like most, I thought he was winning the fight from at that point.
He was doing something that nobody else has managed against Vitali thus far. Fight defensively on his back foot and catch Vitali as he was coming in using his superior handspeed. What would have happened? I don't know and can't say, certainly Vitali never looked hurt by those shots but it did look like it was getting interesting.
Hopefully he can come back.
Also, can we stop this ridiculousness about Solis being knocked down and almost finished by Haye in the Olympics.
Here is the fight
He walks on to a tremendous uppercut, the kind of shot that KO'd Darchinyan and Paul Williams, and doesn't go down but staggers back and takes a mandatory 8 count.
He's down 9-2 from that exchange.
He closes the round at 9-4 which means far from being out on his feet he actually won the rest of the round and then completely dominated David Haye from that point.
His chin looks pretty solid to me, and his skills are clearly world class.
If he can recover properly, and get into decent shape, obviously two big if, he can clean up the weight class after the Klitschko's move on imo.
Healthy i think he can take Haye, Adamek, Povetkin etc. I'm not writing him off yet, providing he takes his training seriously.
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