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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Oh and as for people not making a big deal out of Oscar's world titles, isn't he like one of the top 5 biggest boxing stars in history?

    Have you ever even listened to one of his prefight ring introductions. I would say the boxing world cares and makes a big deal..
    And since when did you start defending the orange girl? Shame on you, Bilbo!
    No defense from me. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say that the boxing world doesn't give Oscar any props for his six world titles at different weights.

    The man is feted as a God practically.

    Anyway, Manny rules, on this we agree, well on earth at least. The heavens belong to God and Jesus will take over the real p4p when He returns, as we both well know and agree.

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    So can we agree that if there's no Mayweather fight announced before may 1st then floyd becomes the #1 P4P fighter in the Inactive But Still Alive catagory... yeah?

    (That places Sugar Ray Robinson at the top of the P4P Inactive But Dead catagory.)

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    He'd do better to concentrate of being ranked top of his division. If Mosley pulls off a tko win vs Manny why can I actually see Mayweather never fighting again and resting on 'well, I beat Shane'

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    He'd do better to concentrate of being ranked top of his division. If Mosley pulls off a tko win vs Manny why can I actually see Mayweather never fighting again and resting on 'well, I beat Shane'
    He's actually the lineal champion of everything but Ring Magazine for some reason. Ring has some odd attitudes towards lineage, that aren't replicated elsewhere.

    Anyway, that aside, he should be removed if it's a year without fighting, but if he doesn't it's not the end of the world. The Pound for Pound is hardly definitive. What I wonder is if he were to sign to fight Pacquiao two weeks after Pac beats Mosley, do we then say ok he's back at #2?

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    He'd do better to concentrate of being ranked top of his division. If Mosley pulls off a tko win vs Manny why can I actually see Mayweather never fighting again and resting on 'well, I beat Shane'
    He's actually the lineal champion of everything but Ring Magazine for some reason. Ring has some odd attitudes towards lineage, that aren't replicated elsewhere.

    Anyway, that aside, he should be removed if it's a year without fighting, but if he doesn't it's not the end of the world. The Pound for Pound is hardly definitive. What I wonder is if he were to sign to fight Pacquiao two weeks after Pac beats Mosley, do we then say ok he's back at #2?
    Agree yeh. No fight, no rank, simple as. The only reason he fought JMM was to clamor and retake the p4p spot after hiatus. I wouldn't no...not until he fights. p4p has become another unneeded watered down division.

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Marvin Hagler only fought about once per year from '85 to '87 and was still recognized as the best fighter in the sport. So Floyd is effectively fighting once per year now, if he doesn't return and fight again this year, you can remove him. But I have a feeling a showdown with Pac may materialize in the fall.

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Marvin Hagler only fought about once per year from '85 to '87 and was still recognized as the best fighter in the sport. So Floyd is effectively fighting once per year now, if he doesn't return and fight again this year, you can remove him. But I have a feeling a showdown with Pac may materialize in the fall.
    This is my thinking. If I were the Ring board I would be smart and say that they're treating Mayweather's legal issues (which run from last September to this month) as they did Izzy & Rafa's injuries & give him a 3-6 month extension. That way if he does sign to fight Pacquiao in September/November, then they're covered. If he doesn't then drop him. It means that they don't have to parachute him back in afterwards & we get a Ring champion rather than acting like Andre Berto is the 2nd best 147lber in the world.

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Oh and as for people not making a big deal out of Oscar's world titles, isn't he like one of the top 5 biggest boxing stars in history?

    Have you ever even listened to one of his prefight ring introductions. I would say the boxing world cares and makes a big deal..
    And since when did you start defending the orange girl? Shame on you, Bilbo!
    No defense from me. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say that the boxing world doesn't give Oscar any props for his six world titles at different weights.

    The man is feted as a God practically.

    Anyway, Manny rules, on this we agree, well on earth at least. The heavens belong to God and Jesus will take over the real p4p when He returns, as we both well know and agree.
    Manny is a modern great and I have reluctantly conceded this on numerous occasions. The man fights and he fights extremely solid opposition. That is a fact. Martinez does too and where you place them on hypothetical p4p lists all boils down to what you favour. I think Martinez has the slightly more spectacular trajectory with no questions asked, but have no issues if others prefer Manny. I think most of us agree that Floyd just bugger off now.

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    Default Re: should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

    There shouldn't even be a P4P list on active fighters. Ok then, Floyd is inactive so sure put him at the top of the list.

    How do you consistently compare fighters from the lower weight-classes and the upper weight-classes? They are so different physically. Compare Naz and Ali and how tell me what criteria you use to "prove" who is the better boxer?

    P4P is nonsense turned into a marketing goldmine. The next step is for Ring Magazine to start by giving out a belt and start charging for sanctioned fights. Wait a sec. What? Why Ring Mag? Why not Saddo?

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