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    Default Re: Kirkland fight SPOILERS!!

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    TBH I really don't see too many people complainig about the stoppage, well on other forums that is.

    Because let's be honest, someone will always have something to complain. If it gets stopped too late, people complain, if it's too soon they still complain.

    And Kirkland I'm pretty sure doesn't have the boxing IQ of JMM to turn fights around when he's on his back. Just a gut feeling.
    You don't hold a fighter to the ground when he is obviously trying to get up. He was losing the round horribly, but quite in control of his senses. Maybe it would have made no difference. But just as he probably wouldn't have put on a Marquez masterclass, he might very well have cleared his head between rounds and gone on to knockout the profoundly civilised person that was very clearly Japanese.

    I ALWAYS disagree with premature stoppages. You only stop a fight if the legs have turned to jelly or you are cut down to the skull. Anything else is the ref trying to take centre stage and Cortez is the king of that.
    Was this fight under the 3-KO rule? If so, then he made the right desicion to stop it . Just following the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    TBH I really don't see too many people complainig about the stoppage, well on other forums that is.

    Because let's be honest, someone will always have something to complain. If it gets stopped too late, people complain, if it's too soon they still complain.

    And Kirkland I'm pretty sure doesn't have the boxing IQ of JMM to turn fights around when he's on his back. Just a gut feeling.
    You don't hold a fighter to the ground when he is obviously trying to get up. He was losing the round horribly, but quite in control of his senses. Maybe it would have made no difference. But just as he probably wouldn't have put on a Marquez masterclass, he might very well have cleared his head between rounds and gone on to knockout the profoundly civilised person that was very clearly Japanese.

    I ALWAYS disagree with premature stoppages. You only stop a fight if the legs have turned to jelly or you are cut down to the skull. Anything else is the ref trying to take centre stage and Cortez is the king of that.
    Was this fight under the 3-KO rule? If so, then he made the right desicion to stop it . Just following the rules.
    not the 3-0 rules, but the fight wasn't ending any different no matter when it was over, in my opinion.

    is it me or have a lot of americans and american prospects been biting the dust recently? paul williams, danny jacobs, james kirkland, kelly pavlik for that matter, cris arreola etc.

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    Default Re: Kirkland fight SPOILERS!!

    Kirkland has lost his mind and hell yes the fight should have been stopped. Just because you can get up forty times doesn't mean the ref should let you. This you hit me and i'll just hit you back harder eventually style he has is gonna get him beat by a lot of the top guys. The japanese guy would have continued to give himself space and pick his shots all night. Kirkland only knows one thing, come forward and punch repeat. Ref just got everyone to the next fight quicker is all.
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