The meaninlessness of being unbeaten

[IamInuit]

Hang on why are Mijares, Powell and Ouma all past it. None of them are even 30 years old.

They are past it because they have lost right?

Had they won their last few fights they would still be on tv.

Saying nobody cared about Akinwande is ridiculous too. That's my whole point. Once a fighter loses, if the whims of the fickle fans dictate it, his chance has gone.

What you're effectively saying is that the really exciting fighters who lose in great slugfests, we will give them another chance, but if they lose in a fight that doesn't thrill us fuck them, they are past it.

No wonder top prospects work so hard at keeping their 0 until they get a shot at a belt!

You mean their matchmakers.

[Kev]

Hang on why are Mijares, Powell and Ouma all past it. None of them are even 30 years old.

They are past it because they have lost right?

Had they won their last few fights they would still be on tv.

Saying nobody cared about Akinwande is ridiculous too. That's my whole point. Once a fighter loses, if the whims of the fickle fans dictate it, his chance has gone.

What you're effectively saying is that the really exciting fighters who lose in great slugfests, we will give them another chance, but if they lose in a fight that doesn't thrill us fuck them, they are past it.

No wonder top prospects work so hard at keeping their 0 until they get a shot at a belt!

You mean their matchmakers.

ha well them too. I'm not sure though, but I'd imagine for a promoter who snaps up a young Olympian say at the beginning of his career he probably loses money initially and won't see a return on his investment until he gets to world level and starts making some serious money.

I'm sure Warren has done well out of Khan and De Gale from fairly on, but the talented fighters from whom a lot is expected but don't have a massive appeal instantly probably don't generate much cash until they get to the belts.

Take the Columbians for instance. Landra, Rigondeaux, Solis et al. They probably haven't made a ton of cash for their promoters yet, but are seen as long term investments. If they never reach the big time, the promoters probably cut a loss, so of course they are going to try and make sure they market them right.

Ultimately we the fans just want the best fights, the interests of the boxers and promoters are of little concern to us. Well they want to earn, it's their business and livlihoods and their interests come first for them.

The UFC is good for everybody fights everybody matchups, but then that organisation controls ever fighter so whoever wins or loses is no risk to them.

[IamInuit]

Look when so called prospects are being spoon fed to a title shot, there is something wrong and it’s systemic. Alvarez is now talking about fighting Mayorga after Rhodes. Seriously I hope Rhodes throttles him and until recently I was a fan of Alvarez.

[JonnyFolds]

Hang on why are Mijares, Powell and Ouma all past it. None of them are even 30 years old.

They are past it because they have lost right?

Had they won their last few fights they would still be on tv.

Saying nobody cared about Akinwande is ridiculous too. That's my whole point. Once a fighter loses, if the whims of the fickle fans dictate it, his chance has gone.

What you're effectively saying is that the really exciting fighters who lose in great slugfests, we will give them another chance, but if they lose in a fight that doesn't thrill us fuck them, they are past it.

No wonder top prospects work so hard at keeping their 0 until they get a shot at a belt!

You mean their matchmakers.

ha well them too. I'm not sure though, but I'd imagine for a promoter who snaps up a young Olympian say at the beginning of his career he probably loses money initially and won't see a return on his investment until he gets to world level and starts making some serious money.

I'm sure Warren has done well out of Khan and De Gale from fairly on, but the talented fighters from whom a lot is expected but don't have a massive appeal instantly probably don't generate much cash until they get to the belts.

Take the Columbians for instance. Landra, Rigondeaux, Solis et al. They probably haven't made a ton of cash for their promoters yet, but are seen as long term investments. If they never reach the big time, the promoters probably cut a loss, so of course they are going to try and make sure they market them right.

Ultimately we the fans just want the best fights, the interests of the boxers and promoters are of little concern to us. Well they want to earn, it's their business and livlihoods and their interests come first for them.

The UFC is good for everybody fights everybody matchups, but then that organisation controls ever fighter so whoever wins or loses is no risk to them.

I think you meant Cubans not Columbians. I have Cuban friends and they would be offended.. lol

True true about UFC.. They really can recycle one fighter as many times as they want.

Matt Hughes
Chuck Liddel
Tito Ortiz
These guys are all so marketable.. But when is the last time you look at one of these aging fighters records? And TKO losses... It's like a bunch of Ricardo Mayorgas running around in there or worse!