The meaninlessness of being unbeaten

[Mar]

....those claiming being unbeaten means nothing have probably been beaten themselves. Your goal is to win. There's nothing wrong with loosing, shit for some it helps thier career but saying perfection is meaningless is silly. For example look how quick fans are to call a guy garbage for one or two losses. You think a loss doesn't affect you paychecks or marketing exposure ? To us real fans it may not mean squat but in the big picture fuck yea it matters. Don't be so quick to say and undefeated fighter hasn't fought anyone. Take floyd if that was true that means marquez, hatton, mosley (who even pac and his guys are trying to convince you is viable) de la hoya etc.....are all garbage. And pac has gotten credit for beating most of the same people floyd has. Some even being drained and beaten before hand by him.

[marbleheadmaui]

....those claiming being unbeaten means nothing have probably been beaten themselves. Your goal is to win. There's nothing wrong with loosing, shit for some it helps thier career but saying perfection is meaningless is silly. For example look how quick fans are to call a guy garbage for one or two losses. You think a loss doesn't affect you paychecks or marketing exposure ? To us real fans it may not mean squat but in the big picture fuck yea it matters. Don't be so quick to say and undefeated fighter hasn't fought anyone. Take floyd if that was true that means marquez, hatton, mosley (who even pac and his guys are trying to convince you is viable) de la hoya etc.....are all garbage. And pac has gotten credit for beating most of the same people floyd has. Some even being drained and beaten before hand by him.

So let me get this straight. That means Swen Ottke was great? Terry Marsh was great? REALLY? Chris John is great? Omar Narvaez is great? That's really what you want to hang your hat on?

Let's try it this way. What is more impressive. Chris John having done what's he's done or Carlos Ortiz doing the following. In eight consecutive fights he fought HOFers seven times. In those eight fights he went 6-1-1.

Saying a record matters without reference to who someone fought (and didn't fight) is silly.